Picked up a Fail Zero Glock 17
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For those Wondering. This Glock is factory new, I didn't send it out for refinishing. The Fail Zero version costs about $30 more than a Glock with a standard factory finish.
Funny you would say that. I was shooting with the new barrel on my Encore today and it "jammed", if you will, when the extractor skipped under the rim of the brass, leaving the casing firm in the barrel. Had to use a dowel rod to get it out.
Point being, even a single shot rifle can experience malfunctions.
I'm surprised at the amount of negative reactions here. Guy buys a gun he wants, pays a price he's happy with, and gets a particular type of finish he prefers. What's going on in your lives that you're able to find downside in this?
I am happy for the OP. He got what he wanted. It will probably work just fine.
What ticks me off, is the wording of the product name for the coating. It implies, that his brand new Glock can not fail.
I guess that is what my rant is about.
If I offend anyone. Sorry.
Nice one! Looks very good. I'd be interested to hear how it performs (i.e. any differently than a standard glock)
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No, it means "Fail. Zero useability". But the period and the last word failed... erh, fell off.
Just kiddin'@OP: nice gun ! Really nice.
You surely aren't saying that marketing would be used to exagerate how good a product is?! Next thing somebody is going to tell me that "instant" coffee packages aren't ready to drink. Seriously, i think Failzero gives people the benefit of the doubt to know the name is not literal.
As someone familiar with coatings like "Failzero", I prefer the factory Glock metal finish. The factory finish is very corrosion/wear resistant and holds lube well. I tested and sold the Failzero AR15 bolt and carrier I bought. It required lube and didn't hold it nearly as well as the milspec phosphate finish.
If you want the "bling" of a plated finish NiB is probably one of the better ones but don't think for a minute it will make a gun more reliable.
If you want the "bling" of a plated finish NiB is probably one of the better ones but don't think for a minute it will make a gun more reliable.
There's always one or two in every punch bowl.
Here's a sorry pic of my Talo Glock 22 .40 S&W with EXO finish:
There's always one or two in every punch bowl.
Here's a sorry pic of my Talo Glock 22 .40 S&W with EXO finish:
I think that looks really nice. I understand the people who say the original finish is tough enough, but I like things that are "a little different."
So is Glock selling these themselves with the FZ as an option, or is FZ just buying up a lot of Glocks and reselling them?
So is Glock selling these themselves with the FZ as an option, or is FZ just buying up a lot of Glocks and reselling them?
I also don't understand all the negative posts regarding Fail-Zero. It's a name which implies greater reliability. I understand their theory that with no gunk in your glock you'll attract less debris to get into places you don't need it.
Sure, I've got Glocks and none has ever failed - ever. But for Thirty dollars to get a (hopefully) great coating to lube the works - that sounds like a bargain to me. Most professionals I know clean their Glocks with zero lube.
Just solvent, toothbrush and let her dry. I know two folks who've put 20,000 rounds through unlubed Glocks and they've been flawless. They expect to put 20,000 more through them. I believe they've replaced recoil springs. That's it.
Great looking pistol and I hope you have a great time shooting it!
Sure, I've got Glocks and none has ever failed - ever. But for Thirty dollars to get a (hopefully) great coating to lube the works - that sounds like a bargain to me. Most professionals I know clean their Glocks with zero lube.
Just solvent, toothbrush and let her dry. I know two folks who've put 20,000 rounds through unlubed Glocks and they've been flawless. They expect to put 20,000 more through them. I believe they've replaced recoil springs. That's it.
Great looking pistol and I hope you have a great time shooting it!
Most plated finishes have a potentially fatal flaw. The maximum shear stress ocurrs just below the surface which is where the plating is bonded. Therefore the maximum stress is trying to shear (flake) the bond between the plated coating and the base metal. Small irregularities in the cohesion of the plating can cause failures Very high quality control can prevent these problems.
INMHO unless a plated finish provides a proven, reliable benefit it is not worth the risk.
INMHO unless a plated finish provides a proven, reliable benefit it is not worth the risk.
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The more I see the FZ finish, the more I like it. Don't care about their claims about reliability or whatever, but looks very good, IMO. Breaks up the Glock look nicely.
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Could you elaborate as i've been considering one? Are you saying the lube on the failzero dissipated too fast? Did the gun experience more malfunctions than with the regular bolt/carrier and if so was that only after the lube dissipated from the bolt/carrier?
Does Glock put the failzero over their normal metal finish? The reason i don't care for it on a Glock is because the normal finish is excellent.
Could you elaborate as i've been considering one? Are you saying the lube on the failzero dissipated too fast? Did the gun experience more malfunctions than with the regular bolt/carrier and if so was that only after the lube dissipated from the bolt/carrier?
Does Glock put the failzero over their normal metal finish? The reason i don't care for it on a Glock is because the normal finish is excellent.
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The EXO coating is applied after the slide have had the normal tennifer finishing process. Glock puts an extra black coating on the slides since the tennifer treatment leaves the parts looking pretty bare.
Who really cares if the EXO adds anything to the Glock slide? I just want to look like Will Smith in Bad Boys II.
I love this thread...the OP is off shooting his new gun and everyone else is sitting around typing on a computer arguing about the finish.
He might have started this thread just to keep everyone busy online so there would be no line at the indoor range.
He might have started this thread just to keep everyone busy online so there would be no line at the indoor range.
If you like the cosmetics (pimp gun) fine. I don't think the plating adds anything functional to a Glock.
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