I'm in Colorado too. Since it says right on the permit "this permit is the property of the sheriffs office". I would do it if asked. What's the good of an expired permit anyway? My guess of why they might want it back is making sure each permit holder only has one form of proof. That way it might be more difficult to forge one? Why someone would want to go through the trouble I have no idea as it's relatively inexpensive to obtain.
Are you asked to surrender your expired carry permit? Would you, if asked?
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In my state (Alabama) I can either renew at the sheriff office or by mail. In either case I have to send a copy of my CCW or bring it with me to renew. They do not destroy it or anything. They simply just transfer over the information of DOB, height, weight etc to the new card. Simple and easy.
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I have to agree with Sam. Why not? I certainly wouldn't refuse if they asked for it! I would just destroy old permits once they expire the same way I do expired credit cards or other IDs, anyway.
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In Utah, renewals are done by mail, we do not require exchange of the old permit.
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I can think of few reasons not to drive across the county to hand them the old card once the new one shows up in the mailbox. Gas prices being what they are, I'd have to weigh if it is worth it to me to make that round trip, as it does not appear to be a strict requirement in any way.
That leaves the option of mailing it to them. I'm quite certain that I have zero postage stamps at the house because I don't mail anything anymore. Bills are paid online and checks are issued and mailed through the bank's website. So I'd have to run an errand or two just to get that little piece of trash off in the mail. Sounds like a lot of effort for something that, again does not look to be required.
Man. I'd sure like to give them what they ask for, but if it isn't required, I just have more important things going on. If it's require, I'll make it happen. If it ain't, well...
I guess I see the most logic in what hso posted. With what little time I have to accomplish the things that I am required to do, I'm just not going to similarly prioritize anything that I'm not required to do. I wish everyone could approach posting in a thread the way hso does.
For some reason I'm growing more curious about what else people are willing to surrender at the simple request of their local government body.
That leaves the option of mailing it to them. I'm quite certain that I have zero postage stamps at the house because I don't mail anything anymore. Bills are paid online and checks are issued and mailed through the bank's website. So I'd have to run an errand or two just to get that little piece of trash off in the mail. Sounds like a lot of effort for something that, again does not look to be required.
Man. I'd sure like to give them what they ask for, but if it isn't required, I just have more important things going on. If it's require, I'll make it happen. If it ain't, well...
I guess I see the most logic in what hso posted. With what little time I have to accomplish the things that I am required to do, I'm just not going to similarly prioritize anything that I'm not required to do. I wish everyone could approach posting in a thread the way hso does.
For some reason I'm growing more curious about what else people are willing to surrender at the simple request of their local government body.
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Yep. Post offices are off-limits for for carry, so I have changed my life to make it so I don't need to go to them.
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If you were issued a permit in the first case, you would have agreed to abide by their rules. If their rules state you need to turn in your old card, why would you refuse to do something you already agreed to? If they asked, but it was not required, why worry?
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I don't accept that I agreed to abide by that particular 'rule'. In fact, I tend to believe this is a new policy that came in with the new sheriff, but I have nothing but mysterious suspicion to back that up. I certainly don't recall ever being asked that before, and as I mentioned, this is a recent experience of my employee rather than my own.
Someone else here from Colorado says that their permit states that it is property of the sheriff's office. The permit in my wallet certainly has no such remark.
The counties of Colorado might diverge from each others' protocol in great ways. That might have been the reason behind the legislation that prohibits sheriff's offices from entering permittees into the statewide criminal database.
Someone else here from Colorado says that their permit states that it is property of the sheriff's office. The permit in my wallet certainly has no such remark.
The counties of Colorado might diverge from each others' protocol in great ways. That might have been the reason behind the legislation that prohibits sheriff's offices from entering permittees into the statewide criminal database.
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Ok...so I guess it becomes a bit of an unanswerable question. If you HAVE to, do so. If you aren't sure you have to, maybe give them a call -- but understand that it may be an administrative rule they're allowed to enact because official credentials and documents are the property of the office.
Of course you can always sit on it and wait to see what happens next. It is unlikely they'd simply revoke your permit without an official notice of non-compliance or whatever.
If they don't ask or don't care? Don't bother.
Of course you can always sit on it and wait to see what happens next. It is unlikely they'd simply revoke your permit without an official notice of non-compliance or whatever.
If they don't ask or don't care? Don't bother.
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Maybe you didn't agree previously because it's a new rule. Don't like the new sheriff and his new rule and don't want to agree with it, don't renew your permit. Pretty simple really.
IMHO, you answered your own question and gave the best legitimate response in this post.....and it too is pretty simple.
Anything else would seem to be much to do about nuttin'.
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That's what I think; new [strike]rule[/strike] request. I actually like this sherrif; I didn't vote for him in the primary, but certainly in the election.
I will find time to call them today to ask though.
I will find time to call them today to ask though.
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I'd tell 'em "I threw it in the trash." Which would be the truth.
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I haven't had to renew my permit, yet.
If they don't require it, but request it, I'd probably pass. But for no other reason than the fact that I am lazy and gas is super expensive.
I wouldn't really have a choice if they required it, I'd just have to suck it up, and get off my couch.
If they don't require it, but request it, I'd probably pass. But for no other reason than the fact that I am lazy and gas is super expensive.
I wouldn't really have a choice if they required it, I'd just have to suck it up, and get off my couch.
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Anyway, my questions are these:
Where you are, are you asked to surrender your old permit?
Texas, and No.
If asked (not required) would you do so?
When my new one arrives in the mail, my old one goes through the shredder.
Why do you suppose they ask for the old card?
I try not to dwell on such things.
Where you are, are you asked to surrender your old permit?
Texas, and No.
If asked (not required) would you do so?
When my new one arrives in the mail, my old one goes through the shredder.
Why do you suppose they ask for the old card?
I try not to dwell on such things.
i have never been asked to return the old one. but really, what good is it? having it lay around, it could end up back in your wallet. if stopped, and you handed that one over, things could get stressful. and, if a burglar should find it, that would give him/her the clue that there were guns in the house. so start looking. the most likely thing that i can think of, is one of the kids find it, take it to school, or show it to everyone at a dinner party. there are people that i know that i do not necessarily want them to know i carry. so yes, if asked, i would hand it back in. my old one is locked in the gun safe. the only reason i keep it is if i should loose my wallet, it would be much easier to get a replacement if i had all the information right there.
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I had to answer that I haven't renewed, don't know because my CCW permit doesn't expire until 2016. If, I'm required to return my old one when I renew, I will...no biggie to me.
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Another Alabama resident (Jefferson County, includes Birmingham), and I always turn in the old when renewing. I've never tried to renew by mail; as far as I know, JeffCoSD requires in-person renewal.
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