Which is better car gun: Glock 17 or Ruger GP 100?

56hawk said:

For safety reasons I would choose the GP 100. I'm assuming a car gun is going to be loaded and more or less loose in the center consul, under the seat or in a locked box of some sort. The Glocks short light trigger is way to easy to accidentally fire when grabbed in a hurry.

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A car mounted holster is the way to go in my opinion. The gun stays where its at so you can expect the grip to be in the same place every time. A Galco Matrix paddle holster can be bolted into a out of sight place and will hold the gun in place very solidly.

Plus, the Glocks can have the NY1 or NY2 trigger spring installed which will increase trigger pull weight comparable to a double action revolver. I like the NY1 trigger spring myself which Glock claims to raise the trigger weight to 11 lbs. as long as no other trigger parts are changed out. For only $2.00 in cost, too.

As an owner of a GP100 and a Glock, the Glock is my choice for a car gun.

I dont leave a pistol in my Truck unattended.
It comes out of my IWB holster and in to my truck holster secured between the split seats. When I get out it goes right back into my IWB.
I do not intend to shoot and drive it's pretty much an anti ambush in a parking lot scenerio I prepare for.
Anything threatening me while I am in the truck is going to get run over and if I have to back over you, you might get it twice as I am getting out of dodge and to a safe place and then calling 911.

Should anyone choose to let loose with a full house load from that GP inside the confines of the vehicle the choice will become as clear as the ringing is in the ears!

My car guns will have to be revolvers because I might not be the only one who ever has to use one. I've chosen the police trade-in 64 for each vehicle's glove box.

el Godfather said:

Dear THR:
The choice is between Glock 17 or Ruger GP100 for a car gun. Both are reliable enough. Just which you pick and why? I understand one is revolver and the other is a semi auto. Please take this and the power aspect in consideration as well as other things that my be important.

Thank you

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Glock unless you're going to throw gun into pile of steel tools on regular basis. The GP100 would make better hammer and or pry bar if you choose to employ it for that purpose.

I read Ferfals story about life in Argentina after their economy collapsed a couple years ago. One story I remember. He saw a guy in a gun shop trading his revovler for an auto. He asked him why. It seems that the thugs in Argentina found a good way to carjack/kidnap/steal by pulling up next to someone stopped in traffic with a van, open the side door, and display weapons/threaten the driver. This particular guy responded with fire, which was the prefered way to respond for many, (no way to exit the scene easily in traffic), and after 6 rounds, was done returning fire while driving.

Not saying its the new thing in Miami or wherever, but something to think about.

I've found that the factory glock bikini holsters are easy to pop off with one hand when pulling the gun from the console one handed. The trigger is protected, and it meets many states requirements for the gun to be holstered if in a console etc.

GP101... Car guns won't get cleaned NEARLY enough, making it more a problem for the auto.

^^^ Is this a serious comment? or are you being sarcastic?

Glock 17

I would go with the GLOCK 17 because of the available ammo without having to reload. If you have to get out of you car and are not carrying a reload, you have 18 versus 6 rounds. That is enough for me.

Jim

For a gun that will spend much of its existence out of immediate physical posession by its owner and subject to coonfingering by unauthorised persons I would go with the revolver. And make it DAO.

^^^ Is this a serious comment? or are you being sarcastic?

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Serious comment. I can't quite figure out how it would be construed as sarcastic. LOL

You mean the "SP"101 don't you. I am unaware of a GP101.

Jim

G17

This is gonna have to do more with which platform you dig but if your having trouble deciding between high capacity and high power I would get a glock 26 for carry on person (should suffice for bipedal's), and use a 4" gp 100 as the truck gun (for two and four leggers, as well as hunting if you need to), I know here in Florida I would go with the stainless model since humidity can get kind of high.

Either way the gp 100!

Car guns won't get cleaned NEARLY enough, making it more a problem for the auto.

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A Glock could go for 10 years in a glove box with out cleaning and still function properly. I might 2nd guess the ammo. If you use crapy lube that will get think and set up I could see this as a problem, but otherwise there is really no reason to clean a non fired gun to maintain function.
I'm planning on buying a boat glock. It will likely get detail stripped once a year when I put the boat away for the winter. This is only because it will be in a moist environment and it certainly wont hurt it to be stored clean for the winter.

I'm personally a hugh Glock fan, and you're probably right; I just thought that revolvers would be more inherently durable.

You mean the "SP"101 don't you. I am unaware of a GP101.

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Just mixed up the GP100 with the SP101, that's all.

Just read every post, and no one has directly mentioned that you can shoot .38 special out of the GP-100... so I'm mentioning that, in regards to the awful noise that would result from shooting in a vehicle.

Definitely comes down to whichever you shoot better and feels better in your hand, I respect both choices. I would personally choose the GP-100, I'm fast with speed-loaders and own several, and I love my GP-100. I'd keep .38 (maybe +P) in the gun and .357mag in the speedloaders. I choose the revolver because it's heavier and I like the trigger-pull. I shoot it better than a polymer frame when one-handed, and far more accurately two-handed. I also really prefer the GP-100 sights to the Glock sights. All that being said I wouldn't try to change someone's mind if they chose the Glock though, both are good options for reasons previously mentioned in this thread.

I voted for the Glock 17 because I honestly believe that if I fired a gp100 with .357 in it, i'd be stunned and deaf after the first shot.

However: I own and often shoot my Ruger SP101 .327. It's small, has a great trigger and is much easier to shoot than my 686SW. I shoot them side by side and there is almost no difference in impact damage (pumpkins, concrete blocks, etc). The actual ballistics are substantially identical. Bullet size is nearly identical as well.

But - If i'm in trouble, I'd rather have the Glock for several reasons. Capacity, weight, less shockwave and ear damage.

This thread has me totally confused. Why would anybody pick the 9mm over the .357 magnum? Even with a 3 to 1 capacity disadvantage wouldn't the obvious choice be the round with the best ability to end the fight?

The vote selection is defective relative to the number of choices. For a car gun I want something that is highly effective that will not break my pocket book if it gets stolen. I have a HiPoint 45 that functions well with FMJ and it is what I am thinking of using. I normally CCW or carry a G19 with a RMR or a G33. I do not know the ruger revolver, but I assume it is a good gun, but I l like semiautomatics.

When driving with one hand any shots fired are going to be in an attempt to provide cover.

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Really? I guess a Mare's Leg should have you covered. You just have to practice the move that Arnie uses in T3.