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Which is better car gun: Glock 17 or Ruger GP 100?

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by el Godfather, Oct 9, 2012.

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Which is a better car gun?

  1. Glock 17

    128 vote(s)
    53.6%
  2. Ruger GP 100

    111 vote(s)
    46.4%
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  1. orionengnr

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    I think that Rexster has spoken the wisest words by far in this thread post #26)..

    I don't have (or believe in) a "car gun", a "motorcycle gun", a "boat gun", a "snowmobile gun", a "hang-glider gun"...and so on.

    I have an EDC. If I am in the car, it is with me. If I am on the motorcycle, it is with me. I'm sure you can connect the dots from there.
     
  2. gandog56

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    Glock has yet to make a SINGLE model that feels good in my short fat fingered hand. I carp even about the grip angle. So the choice was very easy for me.
     
  3. coolluke01

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    I'm sure most would agree that 6 perfectly placed rounds of .357 will take care of most any situation. Unfortunately that's never really an option. 18 rounds of 9mm will be far better suited to this SD role. I'm not saying you should spray and pray, but there is a huge difference between a precise shot and tactical accuracy. I would rather have more 9mm COM than one .357 slug.

    Also as has been covered, shooting a .357 in a car is a foolish thing to do. Someone suggested loading .38's in the GP100. Why do that when a 9mm has better ballistics than the .38 and you can load 12 more.
     
  4. chicharrones
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    In the case of people that conceal carry a handgun daily, a subcompact carry gun can be difficult to draw if still kept in a pocket or IWB while seated in a car. Having a separate gun in a car mounted holster makes drawing easier and faster. Plus, a car gun can be larger than a pocket gun or IWB gun.

    Motorcycles are a different ball of wax in this situation in my opinion.
     
  5. chicharrones
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    That's a pretty good point. In my thinking in this thread I am mostly picking the autoloader for capacity for its size. Not to mention my own experience with the ear shattering .357 Magnum. So, although I am a fan of the .357 and the 9mm, my current choice in a car gun is actually a .45 ACP.
     
  6. Black Butte

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    Guns should not be left in cars.
     
  7. iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns

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    In a life-threatening situation I seriously doubt I'd have the time to put them in, but I always have quality earplugs easily reachable on my person :)
     
  8. el Godfather

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    I understand that 357 is loud as hell, but note we are asking about pleasure shooting. The question is about the use in life threatening situation, rather. In such an event its foolish to think about negative collateral aspects. I seriously do believe that impact of a 357 Magnum has more potential to end a fight than a 9mm. The reason i pitched gp against Glock is because in their respective platforms they are considered most reliable by a vast majority of people as i observed that from various polls.

    Still some of the questions i posed in the previous post are unanswered.
     
  9. GaryP

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    I think would go with the Ruger GP100. Less rounds but much more power in .357 Mag.


    :evil: :scrutiny:
     
  10. Doc3402

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    Shooting a .357 in a car to save your own life is never a foolish thing to do if that's what you have. Both rounds exceed the hearing damage threshold by a great margin, so that's really not an issue.

    That would depend on what you have to shoot at. If you are working against a carjacker at a stoplight I would say pick a round, any round. If you are working against some road rage idiot trying to run you into the trees his car is going to be the target in order to get to him. In that case the .357 is the only logical choice of the two firearms mentioned.

    Note to all: Before this goes any further, I have already had this argument about shooting from a moving car. Please don't make me go through it again. It can be done, and it has been done, without resulting in prosecution. That does not mean you can take potshots at Bambi while driving down the carpool lane. It needs to be a self defense situation where deadly force is justified.
     
  11. guyfromohio

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    I call my car-glock my "Reginald Denny" gun. That will Never happen to me. As an urban dweller, it's not a zombie fantasy, but a very real (hopefully very slight) possibility. I want capacity.
     
  12. chicharrones
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    You mean the questions below?

    Price comparisons can be found on internet gun store websites like Bud's Gun Shop, Gallery of Guns, or brick and mortar stores that have their inventory (with pricing) on the internet.

    Another internet search will give some decent information. Check Ballistics by the Inch, Brass Fetcher, or even Wikipedia. With a known muzzle velocity and bullet weight you can punch in info at online ballistics calculators and get some basic numbers. Here is one. http://www.cruffler.com/BallisticCalculators/BallisticCalculator.shtml

    If a round fails to fire in a double action revolver, pull the trigger again and get a fresh round under the hammer. Many autoloaders do not have double strike capability and will require the tap-rack drill. That is not car specific though.

    Also, a contact shot can be made with a revolver where some autoloaders may get the slide pushed out of battery if a contact shot is attempted. Not car specific on that one either.
     
  13. earplug

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    Depends on if your driving a F-250 or a Dodge Magnum.
     
  14. el Godfather

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    what does it matter which vehicle?
     
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    Probably one of each. And a sunroof for the wingman. lolz
     
  16. el Godfather

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    In retrospect do you think this poll was about the two specific guns, between two calibers or really a preference poll between revolver and an auto loader?
     
  17. Inebriated

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    Auto v. Revolver, for me.


    I would prefer a little more power for a vehicle gun (10mm, I'm thinking), but between 6-7 rounds in a revolver platform that I don't shoot as well, and 20+ in an auto platform that I shoot better than any other platform? No question.
     
  18. 56hawk

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    I would say it was probably the two specific guns considering how close the poll results are. This site seems to have more Ruger fans than Glock fans. If the question was revolver vs auto or 9mm vs 357 (which is pretty much the same question), I would expect a very different result.

    Or judging by some of your other polls do a Wilson Combat 1911 vs Ruger GP 100. :evil:
     
  19. el Godfather

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    Good idea. It will be interesting to see results.
     
  20. otasan56

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    The GP100 for sure. The .357 magnum is a far better car penetrator than any 9mm.
     
  21. el Godfather

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    Not sure about 357 penetration. For sure a lot more powerful than 9mm.
     
  22. coolluke01

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    Using a handgun to shoot a car is foolishness. It would be better to focus fire on the driver. ;)

    Besides, having to shoot through a car would only be one small part of the usage of a car handgun.

    Limited capacity in a SD handgun is a poor decision.
     
  23. KodeFore

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    Glock 18 shots vs 6
     
  24. el Godfather

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    Well i am not sure how realistic is the need for reload in the sense that the gun flight will last that long. Practically speaking you will use handgun to just get away from the situation. In case you want to stay and fight, handgun is not the right weapon to begin with.

    Now if you do assume the reload scenario then it means that not only the capacity of the two platforms is a factor, but also the east of reloading. In such event a semi auto will have a clear advantage.

    However, if you believe capacity is not an issue and accept the frequently stated statistics that gun fight do not last over 4-5 shots, then I do not see how a semi auto with lesser force in the projectile propelled would have any advantage over a more powerful revolver because: a) the 357 magnum is far more superior round in energy and stopping power, and b) a miss fire in revolver will not require you to rack the slide.
     
  25. coolluke01

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    Frequently misstated as fact!

    Assuming a 30% hit rate and one round to stop an attacker a 6 shot revolver will not be adequate for stopping two attackers. The 30% number is a fact. This has been taken from the NYPD's numbers. Not to say that you will only ever hit 30% but this is based on real life and death shootings by officers. Your best day fighting will not be as good as your worst day at the range.

    Find the thread on likelihood in %'s of stopping an attacker with 6 rounds. Very enlightening.
     
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