.22LR Shortage..? This might give you hope.?.!

So I should slam my head in a car door because I didn't by gas and store it when it was cheaper? No, I drive less.

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Poor comparison. Most people have no safe way to store gas but most everyone can store a years worth of ammunition in a corner somewhere.

I didn't mean to side rail the OP. But this line of thinking is getting very tiring and simply sickening.

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So is the complaining by people that didn't plan ahead enough to buy a couple extra Wal Mart 22 bulk packs once in a while and stick them in a corner. They think it's everyone else's fault because they can't get ammo now.
A blind man could see the shortage coming. It's not even the first time.



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Here in Canada 22lr is plentiful. The local Cabela's here in Edmonton has pallets of it sitting out. They have:

Winchester Wildcat bulk
Winchester Bushman by the brick
Winchester M22 1000rd
Winchester 333/555
Federal 525
Federal Ammo can with bulk 2100 rds
CCI 375rd boxes mini mags
CCI trays mini mags
CCI standard velocity
CCI subsonic
CCI segmented hollow point
CCI quiet
CCI quiet segmented hollow point
American Eagle
Federal Match
Federal target
three types of federal blue box 50rd boxes
a bunch of Remington fodder that no one cares about.

I'm sure there's more that I can't remember.

So there's no shortage here yet. We do know that one will come. Not because there's increased demand, but simply because we will not be able to resupply from south of the border (the UA).

I've been using this opportunity to stock up. I've gotten several thousand lately. I plan to reach 10,000 rounds before the shortage hits here. I shoot about 6000 per year so that should be a good safety.

The cost is $19.99Cdn for 500 rds.



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coolluke01 said:

All those workers are moving too slow! Step it up! lol

To all those who say "if you don't have ammo to shoot you should slam your hand in the door for being so stupid and unprepared" You have no idea what you are talking about. Many of us buy ammo when we can afford it! It's those who are stocking up for the next tragedy who are driving up the prices. Yes .22 was cheap, but 3 little kids aren't.
This "I told you so" garbage has got to stop!

You won't hear me complaining about how ammo is so expensive and everyone is gouging. It's the free market, I understand that. Those that have money to spend will have ammo. You may drive a nicer car than me too, but don't through it in my face.

I'm not completely unprepared either. I have about 1500 .22 rounds right now for my rifles. .22 for my AA conversion kit is another story though. I have had a hard time finding Golden bullets for it for a while now around here. CCI mini mags are an option but they are 2x-3x the cost of GB's.

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I agree with you and have since day one. The actual cost of a single box of .22 ammunition or a pound of powder is directly proportional to a box of pampers or a pound of beef for the table.

This forum has a large number of young and new shooters. Many married with little future shooters and responsibilities that come well ahead of a hobby like shooting. We also have a large number of students with school responsibilities. Placing beanies and weenies on the table and paying tuition come long before buying shooting supplies.

For some people and extra hundred or five hundred dollars to blow on a hobby is nothing, for those who seldom see anything extra that same one hundred or five hundred dollars is a hell of a lot of money. Shooting and guns are not exactly an inexpensive hobby!

Without knowing a persons ability to stockpile shooting supplies and telling them they should have been prepared is pretty damn arrogant to say the least.

Just My Take..........
Ron

Shooting is not an inexpensive hobby. Shooting centerfire firearms is not a cheap hobby. Shooting 22 rimfire allows many to shoot that otherwise might seldom shoot or shoot a gun at all to enjoy the sport.

About shooting 22's.... When I was in high school and college, buying a brick of 22 ammo was a big deal and I seldom shot 500 rounds in one sitting. Many could do it, but many couldn't simply because even if there was ammunition easily available, they didn't have the money. Other things came first. Hence shooting was rationed to some degree. When I got out of college, I'd walk into a store and see bricks of 22 ammo on sale.... my old life said you need to buy it; it is on sale and the cost was insignificant at that point... but I was living in a new city where I had no idea where to shoot and I didn't have any guns with we anyway. But still, my life's experience told me, I ought to buy some. Funny.

It is not particularly remarkable that many were caught without a supply of rimfire ammunition. I was there. Oh, I usually had at least a brick, but I seldom had more than two bricks on hand ever. That was a year's supply for me unless I got with my brothers and had an afternoon of plinking.

To thumb your nose at people who just don't consume that much ammunition or "didn't see the writing on the wall" is a bit arrogant. Nobody likes to be told... I told you so.

If I were a casual golfer and I believed there would be a shortage of golf balls, I'd probably buy some extra. But the reality is that I would never even believe that a shortage might develop. So I would have what I have and buy more if I could. Same with ammunition, especially 22 ammunition. It is not that big a deal to simply not shoot for a while.

If you shot all the time or participated on the gun forums, you probably had some suspicion that a shortage might develop after the last presidential election. So.... for the participants and people with knowledge and some sense of the future, if you don't have any 22 ammunition, then... "I told you so."

For those that seldom shoot, just don't shoot for a while. It is not exactly like your life revolved around shooting anyway. If a friend can provide some ammunition, great; if not, then wait until inventories return. Not a big deal.

Hey, on another note and looking at idcurrie's post maybe I need to take a road trip north to Canada. Then I can load my entire truck up with .22 ammunition and drag it home. The Niagra Falls crossing is only 3 hours from here. Maybe charter a boat to cross Lake Erie?

What's the penalty for dragging a few million .22 rounds from Canada to the US?

I could open something like a small lemonade stand selling black market .22 ammunition.

Ron

You need a PAL to purchase ammunition in Canada. In Ontario, which is where you're talking about going, there is no Cabela's. They have provincial laws in that province where all ammunition sales must be recorded in a CFO (police officer) owned ledger.

Here in Alberta, there is no such law.

At the gun show, there were bricks for $225 - along with Glock mags for $69.

Some of the bricks were obviously ancient ones pulled from the back of the cheese caves and the Mummy's tomb.

Unless you desperately need them to shoot - you are a sucker to buy such.

Some LGS guys camp out by the big box stores and then buy the bricks and flip them for the exhorbitant prices. Stupid to buy from them.

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You need a PAL to purchase ammunition in Canada. In Ontario, which is where you're talking about going, there is no Cabela's. They have provincial laws in that province where all ammunition sales must be recorded in a CFO (police officer) owned ledger.

Here in Alberta, there is no such law.

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Thanks for showing the selection up north!

Idcurrie, those photos reflect what will be here too in time again.

idcurrie said:

You need a PAL to purchase ammunition in Canada. In Ontario, which is where you're talking about going, there is no Cabela's. They have provincial laws in that province where all ammunition sales must be recorded in a CFO (police officer) owned ledger.

Here in Alberta, there is no such law.

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OK, thanks a bunch. I will cancel the road trip and thoughts of leasing a charter boat. Damn, and it seemed so simple too!

Ron

I always thought the reason to travel accross the border for an evening was to pick up some Cuban cigars. Now it's ammo. Good luck with both.

Gaah! idcurrie, you're killing me!

I've got 2,000 rounds each of 22LR and 5.56 and consider that hanging on by my fingernails. I'm on a wait list at Sportsman's Guide.... the shelves at my area Ccabela's are BARE of 22LR (and only eight boxes of 22 Short, at last visit)

What are the ammo laws in BC? I don't think there is a Cabela's there.

I worked part time about 5 years ago at a "BIG" Sporting Goods store where a local Boy Scout Summer Camp bought their supply of .22 Long Rifle Ammo.
The store of course gave the Scouts a bargain price as the Scouts purchased 250 Thousand rounds to see them through a Summer Camping Season.
My hope IS that the Scouts are able to secure the ammo that they need.
I know that it seems like a lot of ammo but in 3 months(summer camp), it don't take many Scouts to shoot 50 rounds apiece/day to come up with that figure.

I never thought I would see federal bulk pack in English and French! Only in Canada

Pretty neat video.

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dodo bird said:

I never thought I would see federal bulk pack in English and French! Only in Canada

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Browning firearms have dual language warnings and instructions.

What are the ammo laws in BC?

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A possession and acquisition license is required to purchase ammunition anywhere in Canada. It's a federal law.

As far as I know, B.C. has no further laws. I believe Ontario and Quebec are the only provinces with more restrictive laws. I stand to be corrected on that, however.

I never thought I would see federal bulk pack in English and French! Only in Canada

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There are two official languages here. All products are dual language. BUT! I bought one of the federal ammo cans with 2100 rounds in it (4 boxes) and they had the american labels on them.

Canadian packages actually have different model numbers.

For example, Federal makes these two models of blue box ammo for the 30 30:

3030a
3030b

In Canada, these are sold as:

3030ac
3030bc

Obviously, the c denotes Canada and the multilingual packaging. Otherwise, it's all the same as far I know.

All that said, it seems Cabela's skirts the rules frequently and imports directly from the USA without observing packaging requirements. I have bought some of the above 30 30 loads without French labelling there which are not available ANYWHERE else. I suspect this is how Cabela's usually wins on price and availability.

Browning firearms have dual language warnings and instructions.

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All firearms do that are sold here, as far as I know. I've bought Winchester, Savage, Weatherby, Marlin, Ruger, Mossberg, Henry and others and they've all been multilingual.


There may or may not be export restrictions with bringing ammo out of Canada and there may be import restrictions when bringing it back to the USA. I know for a fact there are severe restrictions when bringing it North.

I keep forgetting that CCI is Idaho based. I may just have to start buying exclusively from them. I do love my Federal Auto-Match though...

Thanks idcurrie! Good info.

idcurrie said:

Here in Canada 22lr is plentiful. The local Cabela's here in Edmonton has pallets of it sitting out. They have:

Winchester Wildcat bulk
Winchester Bushman by the brick
Winchester M22 1000rd
Winchester 333/555
Federal 525
Federal Ammo can with bulk 2100 rds
CCI 375rd boxes mini mags
CCI trays mini mags
CCI standard velocity
CCI subsonic
CCI segmented hollow point
CCI quiet
CCI quiet segmented hollow point
American Eagle
Federal Match
Federal target
three types of federal blue box 50rd boxes
a bunch of Remington fodder that no one cares about.

I'm sure there's more that I can't remember.

So there's no shortage here yet. We do know that one will come. Not because there's increased demand, but simply because we will not be able to resupply from south of the border (the UA).

I've been using this opportunity to stock up. I've gotten several thousand lately. I plan to reach 10,000 rounds before the shortage hits here. I shoot about 6000 per year so that should be a good safety.

The cost is $19.99Cdn for 500 rds.



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The Canucks are coming!

I have plenty of 22 LR ammo. I bought a brick of 22 ammo every time I saw it for under $20 whether I needed it or not. Even though I have plenty to shoot the current market doesn't put me in the mood to go out and plink. Warm spring weather will get me in the mood to get out and do some shooting. I carry a 22 when fishing. There are some great places for target practice around my fishing holes. Different places always get me in the mood for shooting.

I don't know about the 22 LR. But I am hearing ammo production should catch up with demand around Christmas. Prices will go down to prepanic levels. When distributors have inventory that isn't moving they have no choice but to cut prices.

Mobuck said:

Anyone in the position of "needing" to buy 22lr now should have their hands slapped for not being better prepared. Twenty two ammo was cheap and easy to store so no reason not to have several thousand on hand. If you have a 22 and don't have at least 5K of ammo, go shut your hand in the first door you encounter.

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Seriously?

I'll say it again. I want the old THR back.

Wow? My buddy made a run today. Found nothing in 22. He drove almost an hour in one direction. He hit Dunckleburgers in E. Stroudsburge and it was a mad house no 22. He eventually found two 375 rd boxes for $32 at a more local shop. I don't agree with the if you don't have it by now, the heck with you attitude.

bri said:

Seriously?

I'll say it again. I want the old THR back.

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Things certainly have changed.

I understand giving advice to others to prepare...but what's the point of gloating over what you have that others don't? Its a pride thing.

Fat babies have no pride.