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All the above guns could have had a problem from the box. :uhoh: Give the Walther P-99 a chance, they are good guns! Much better than their little PP's. :D

There is no see through scope mounts for the CZ so I'd get another type of rifle that uses more standerd mounts if see through is a issue. (With CZ, you're stuch with their mounts.)

To me, the best M1's are used and used in WWII. :cool:

CZ USA needs an upgrade on their customer service. :barf:

Some work very well but the barrels aren't that great. They use cheap labor to keep the costs down (like the GI) but are all cast. I'd lean towards the GI or Norinco myself but if you want all the bells a whistles on a budget, you may want to give a RIA or Armscor a try.

In 380, I'd go with GS or HS. They seem to have the best combo of penetration and expansion in small guns. ;)

I'm a dealer and HAVE sent guns back to most manufacturures, CZ's "service" is near the bottom rung with Browning. :cool: As a matter of fact we've had a CZ pistol there for 4 weeks and I'll bet it comes back with issues! I do like most CZ products but we had to drop them for sale and will...

We've sold quite a few new PPK'S's but some go back do to feeding problems and they are grossly over priced. We sell a heck of alot more Bersa Thunders and they never come back. they are also less than half the price , are lighter, and have a slide stop. If I were in the marked for a 9mm sized...

Oh yeah? S&W's service is head and shoulders above CZ's And they were one of the first to offer HC mags to replace the low caps bought around and before the sunset. I think someone is living in the past. That said, the S&W auto's have a high axis (like Sigs) and generally have crappy triggers...

Good luck with the over priced mags. :D I hope you have better service from CZ than I got! :barf:

I don't know of any aftermarket parts right now and the desperatly need a stiffer recoil spring!:banghead:

I've carried 4" compacts for years and they were totally reliable. I woried more about FPS and used 185 gr bullets in shorter guns. I've shot many 3" Kimbers that were reliable and accurate and think their shorties were set up the best. (pre II) However I liked the 4" barrel better for the...

Good guns but I had terrible service from Mike at CZ. We sent a new rifle back because the bolt was binding BADLY and they returned it unfixed and said "as long as it fires it's fine". I tried everything but they wouldn't fix it. The owner who has several CZ's said he's never buy another and we...

Don't overlook Rock River Arms. There have been some complaints (on the 1911 board) of Ed Brown not excepting the fact that a gun has a problem and getting repair was a chore but all in all he makes great guns. And he DOE'S test fire them. :rolleyes:

Thanks for the report Mr A Camp, I doubt you'll need them for Norinco's though. :D

Thanks for the report, I'll have to see if the new stuff in in my area yet.

I disagree, if the tube comes loose (and they can), the grip will hold it there and this may just save your bacon. :p

People please,,, try to keep it simple. :evil: Rinco theme. Or Mac theme.

Sounds like a good way to screw up a pistol. :uhoh:

Heres the 10mm and a 9mm mating. :p