$10K - What do you Buy?

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I'd buy 921 shares of Ruger stock. Then use the $736.00 in dividends each year to buy guns.

Being a Financial Analyst by trade I thought to myself - that's worth looking into.

Ruger financially is a fairly strong company - much smaller than I imagined but in good financial shape. Based on cash flow, balance sheet, EPS for this year and a relatively high P/E I consider that Ruger is a bit over priced at the recent $10.85/share. If they were paying .80 a share dividend on their annual EPS that gives about 7.5% annual return on investment - which is a really, really good dividend rate.

Problem is I don't think that this year they're gonna be able to pay that 80 cents a share at least not out of earnings. They're on track to make between .30/share to .50/share annual EPS. Currently for Q1-Q3 they're at .35/share. There's a real possibility that 4Q03 they might lose 2 or 3 cents a share (thus the .30 cent estimate). Personnaly I think Q4 will be in the .10 to .15 range. If they match their best 4Q ever (.40 in 1999) they will still only make 75 cents/share for 2003 and no company I know of is going to dip into retained earnings so they can pay out a historical 80 cents per share annual dividend (stranger things have been known to happen though).

In addition to get a dividend in 2003 you had to be a stockholder of record in 2001 (another weirdness). If you buy the stock today you will not collect any of that high dividend rate until 2005 if the date of record follows their historical pattern.

You have to really hold Ruger stock to get that 7.5% return (which for long term investors or those investing for income isn't a bad thing).

Another factor is that Ruger stock trades in a pretty narrow range ($10 to $14) on a 12 to 14 month cycle so it's really not even a candidate for swing traders. Might be ok for those who hold for 1 to 2 years.

Ruger stock looks to be a good deal for those investing for income and who plan to hold it for years and years. Those looking for capital appreciation (me) should look elsewhere.
 
1. A new used truck. - 5K
2. That restored 1968 Pontiac Chieftan I been eyeing - 3K

The last 2K? Let's see... a couple HBE holsters for my new guns... some new reloading equipment and stuff like powder and brass and all that jazz... A pair of CZ-52 and have them totally redone. Then I'll savor the time spent browsing around all the gun shops in SLC looking for that one gun that just really catches my eye.
 
Other than hardcroming what I've got, I'd buy a pre-ban AR with a lot of mags and ammo, a few P14 mags, maybe a P13 and some extra mags as well. The rest would likely get spent on my cars, since most of my gun purchases were made with money meant for the cars. Of course, I might also buy an import or something good on gas that I'd have no intrest in hot rodding, since my current daily driver is a rattletrap.
 
Good handgun in a common caliber (.38/.357, .40, .45ACP, maybe 9x19), with good holster, lots of magazines|speedloaders, lots of ammo and spare parts.

Good small pistol in common caliber, suitable for deep concealment, with holster, mags, etc. Preferably something from the VPC's "pocket rocket" list.:)

Homeland defense rifle, lots of magazines, enough spare parts to build another (or maybe a "parts gun"), _lots_ of ammo.

Shotgun. Mossberg 500 or equivalent. My only shotgun right now is more of an heirloom (Grandpa's gun) than a working gun. Ammo, tools, accessories, etc.

Progressive press, lots of consumables.

All the training I can afford with whatever's left.
 
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Well, if it ALL has to go to guns...

.22lr conversion for my 100mm Witness.
Rem. 700 in .308 w/ a 24in Stainless Bull Barrel w/ bada$$ Leupold, tabled trajectory
CMP Garand (just for sake of it.)
CMP 1903 Springfeild, and make a sniper rifle out of it.
2 Chromed 1911's.
2 Matte finished 1911's.
Pre-ban AR-15, 24in barrel.


2000-rds Turk 8mm.
2000rds WWB .45
1000rds 5.56mm
500rds WinRanger .45
500rds WinRanger 10mm

Full reloading gear for 5.56mm, 8mm, 10mm, .45, .30-06, and .308, at least 1000rds each.

Ok, that is probably a little over 10k, but hey.
 
Nothing. I don't have the time to shoot the guns I already own. I would probably just invest it.
 
Bushmaster A2 20"
Bushmaster A3 20" (with ACOG TA31)
Bushmaster M4 (with EoTech 551)

40 USGI Mags

3 Cases Q3131A
3 Cases IMI M855

DSA STG-58A with a few Aussie battlepacks and 10 metric mags

Arsenal Inc. SAM-7 Classic with 10 mags and case of Wolf

Browning Hi-Power Mark III
Glock 19

That should be just about 10000
 
Needs/Wants and $10K...
Can I use some for classes/training?
A hunt I want to take someday?
I'd like more 1911 style and old smith wheels. I'd like good optics on a good bolt in .308, or '06...some shotguns too, a dog...tell you what- let me be patient carry the cash...I'm sure I'll find what fills the bill.

Hey Sam, wanna go check out some shops? I'm buying lunch...
;)
 
Needs/Wants and $10K...
Can I use some for classes/training?
A hunt I want to take someday?

:D Hell yes! Use it for anything you want as long as it's gun related and all of the above are definitely that.
 
:D
Great!
Humm, I did a little math...gonna need about $40K more...my want list kinda ,sorta,got out of hand...:D

It wasn't the guns so much( I lie) as the price of some of the hunts... Africa, Spain, South America... the classes and training are cheap in comparison...oh and Sam wanted a Steak for lunch...:p
 
Dunno what all, but a buddy goes... driven bird hunts, red deer, some other critters...I've seen pics and, well , Hemingway hunted there 'nuff said.:D
I need to check into it more, but the countryside was breathtaking, people great, food awesome...and the hunts...he goes back every year.

Hey, why not ? Now Scheuy , does anything I do make sense...see, there ya go.:D
 
Werewolf
Thanks for the RGR analysis. I've been watching RGR for several years now and have bought two lumps at $7.62 and $8.49 and I don't believe I've gotten less than $.80 dividend. Most of which I have poured back into RGR. So at that price I'm averaging about 10% dividend.
Thanks
Bob
 
Re, what is there to hunt in Spain??

Spanish wipe out plenty of birds in the Pyrenees every migration, upsets the EU a little. There are foxes, rabbits, weaselly things and in the northern mountains (along the flat top of Spain) there are wolves and the odd bear. Good luck being allowed to shoot bear in Europe, they are a little endangered but you might get away with it in Romania. The Spanish say that if you go into the hills looking for wolves without a gun you will see them and hear them with a modicum of skill. Go into the hills with a gun and you will not get sight nor sound of a wolf.
 
Perazzi MX20 with a spare 28 gauge barrel and a wood upgrade. 10K should just cover it.
 
1) $2000 on training classes or private instruction (also probably get training needed to get NRA Instructor certs)
2) Kimber CDP, either the 3" or 4" compact models (used $800-1000, new $1000-1200)
3) Colt Python ($800-1000)
4) S&W M57 (~$600)
5) 20" Bushmaster (pretty standard, nothing special) ($800)
6) M1A ($1200)
7) Garand (nothing special, just a shooter in decent condition) ($800)
8) HK P7 ($1000)
9) NAA Guardian in .32acp or Beretta Tomcat ($350)
10) Lever carbine in .357mag (~$400)
11) Ruger Vaquero in .45lc ($450)
12) Remington 870 or Lanber O/U ($270-450 depending upon model)
13) $200 in reloading equipment and supplies

If I dropped about $750 from training budget I'd add a Springfield Armory 1911 Loaded.


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I left a few things off my list that I really want:
-Winchester Featherweight Classic (or something to that effect) in .243 or 6.5x55
-Howa in .243 or 6.5x55
-CZ in same
-one of the above in .308 as well
-M1 Carbine

I don't know what I'd take off my list to get these. Man I hate prioritizing.
 
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