10mm PT-C Dan Wesson DOA

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Grayrider

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Gents,

In a recent post I stated that I had long wanted a 10mm Commander. I found a Dan Wesson 10mm PT-C bobtail, and scooped it up. Mind you this is my fourth Dan Wesson 10mm 1911 (I am a sucker for 10mm 1911s), and the other three did not work new in the box. I figured my luck was due for a change. The gun was shipped to my smith, and I asked him to check it out before I got it. I failed to provide him any 10mm and that was purely my fault. He doesn't shoot that round so he did not have any. He went over the gun superficially and did not see any obvious flaws. My Patriot 10mm had too short of an ejector, and that was obvious. Nothing that glaringly wrong with the PT-C.

When I got it home I found the rear tritium was dead. Oh well, not DWs fault necessarily. I had a Glock 19 do that years ago, sent it back, got it back dead again, sent it back.....long story. Called DW and they want me to send them the sight or the whole gun. I asked if they could send me a different sight to put on while I am without the XS rear, and they agreed. It isn't here yet, but I assume they have sent it.

Off to the range today with the DW and my newly acquired XD9. I had some Federal and Hornady JHPs for the DW. Load up the first round, bang, bang, jam. Hmm. Round didn't feed. Clear that, bang, jam. Round didn't feed. Clear. Bang, jam. Round nose up in breach, mag won't drop. Fumble around a bit to clear that. Maybe it is the mag, so I change mags and ammo. Bang, jam. Clear. Bang, jam. Stop shooting as it is pointless to continue. Any other brand of gun perhaps I would have tried further, but I have been there done that before with Dan Wesson. Off to my smith goes this one. The sights will go to as they leave much to be desired IMHO.

So now that is 4 Dan Wessons, 100% failure out of the box. Quality control? They never heard of it. Why did I buy one again? Well the rest were fixable with minimal investment on my part, and I am sure this one will be to. For the money I got a base gun needing some minor tweaking and it will be good to go. Still, my Kimber HD II was along and topped its 300th round without a malfunction or cleaning. Seems someone knows how to make a working 1911 out of the box. Will I buy another DW, H**L NO!

GR

(PS the XD9 ran fantastic, so I bought another one when I got home. Notice DW did not get my remaining few dimes)
 
GR
Hows that RZ doing? I know what you mean, I dont see how they test fire these things sometimes. One of my RZ's was so badthat there is no way they could have test fired it. I like the DW's they just need to bring up the quaility control, if they did that they would have one of the best deals going in 1911's.
 
Sorry to hear about your bad luck, Grayrider. :(

I had a couple of minor issues with my RZ which DW fixed within a week on their nickel. It has been absolutely flawless ever since.

I just received a Bobtail Commander a couple of weeks ago that I haven't yet had a chance to take to the range. However, I have high expectations for it because it is beautifully built -- far superior to my Razorback, and still quite a bit superior to my Colt Delta Gold Cup. (I'm sure you read my "Initial Impressions" thread at the DW-Forum.) The throating and slide fit on my new PT-C is just plain outstanding.

It is a bummer that you've had such bad luck with them. I know a gentleman over on the SF who has had nothing but bad luck with Springfields and Kimbers. He too has bought something like 5 of them and none of them has worked out of the box. Perhaps you just have a DW-curse like he has a Kimber/Springer curse. :uhoh:

I have to wonder, though, why you send your gun off to a 'smith right away instead of making DW fix their problem. :confused: They messed it up, they should pay to fix it. They did it with my RZ, they wre fast, and it is now perfect...
 
I have run 200 rounds through my RZ...

and I LOVE it! I beleive that if you had sent it back to Bob and the gang @ DW, he would have taken care of it right off the bat.

I'm sorry to hear of your dissatisfaction.

Scott
 
It won't be going back to DW. My RZ had to make that trip and came back still not 100% and with a new feature. The trigger guard had a giant scratch on it. My smith will have to handle this one.

I think I may have the DW curse! It sure seems like some of us just don't have luck with some manufacturers. I have had nearly 100% success with Kimber and SA. Funny how that works. Of course I have always heard getting 10mm to run perfectly in a 1911 isn't easy, so that may contribute to all my bad luck. It is a terrible curse. Maybe the XD357 will help cure it!

:D
 
Yeah I am thinking it will run around $1000-1100 total invested by the time it is fixed. Ouch.

CZ 1911--boy that would be sweet! Talk about a company that makes a gun work out of the box. Those guys make good guns--period. That and their pricing scheme is hard to argue with.

GR
 
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