2 Strange CCW Days

[mec]

Arizona really must rock. We arn't allowed to carry at professional sporting events.

 

[Control Group]

wouldn't it be easier to just move?

My job, my family, and pretty much everyone I know lives in Wisconsin. More importantly, my g.f. lives in Wisconsin, is pursuing her Master's at UW-Madison, and working for the University Hospital, which is paying for her to get her Master's.

Moving, therefore, isn't so much an option. Or at least, not a good one.

Besides, why should I have to move to exercise my Constitutional rights?

(note the anger isn't directed at anyone here, but at my stinking state government)

 

[armoredman]

Az does rock - BUT, most sproting events serve open alcohol, and fall under the special event rule of the state firearms law, so I would be very surprised if signs weren't posted at the stadium. That is, supposing this was in a real stadium, and not a spring training game held in a more open, unrestricted place. Not having been in Tempe for many moons, I cannot tell you how thier areas or sporting events are laid out.
The great thing about CCW in AZ,( beside that it's shall issue, doesn't limit the number/types of weapons concealed, and is OK with the carry of legal Class 3), is that if your weapon becomes accidentally exposed, you just went from legal,(concealed), to legal, (open). Nifty!
Plenty of room for good gun people out here - get in on it before all these Calirefugees take all the good spots!

 

[cls12vg30]

To obtain another handgun, an applicant must procure another permit and must convince the issuing authority that he needs more than one handgun.

You read this in North Carolina law? Is this only for 18-21 year olds? You can get up to five pistol purchase permits at a time, $5 each. And now if you have CCW, you don't even have to bother with them anymore. Thank you GRNC. Now to start attacking those carry restrictions...

 

[mbs357]

Yep, that's what I read at the site. I suppose sherriffs are more lenient than the laws. =p
But anyway, the plan of getting a NH permit sounds good...
Now I just need to get someone to buy a gun for me...for CCW...and get to NH...
Oh, but I notice I don't have to apply in person, according to Packing.org, what exactly does that mean?

 

[El Rojo]

Sometimes I get the feeling that my Glock is poking into my side when it shouldn't be. The best one was when I used to work at a federal prison. Guns on site are a big no-no. The night before I went to K-Mart and just dropped my Glock into my coat pocket. I went, came home, and put the Glock away. The next day at work for a split second I thought I felt the weight of my Glock still in the jacket. Talk about a heart attack. I quickly grasped the jacked pocket and realized it wasn't there. Even if it were, I could have snuck it right back out and gotten it out of there, but still, the possibility of bringing a Glock 27 into a secure federal prison with inmates all around me was a bit scary.

 

[mbs357]

I know how you feel, one morning I reacted the same way when I thought I accidentally took my pocket knife to school.
Difference is, I actually did. >_<

 

[RyanM]

Now I just need to get someone to buy a gun for me...for CCW...and get to NH...
Oh, but I notice I don't have to apply in person, according to Packing.org, what exactly does that mean?

I guess you didn't scroll down far enough when reading Packing.org.

How do I apply for a Permit/License?

Non Residents: Must apply to the New Hampshire State Police, Permits and Licensing Unit. You can download an application from the Licensing Unit or contact them at:

Division of State Police
Permits and Licensing Unit
33 Hazen Drive
Concord, NH 03301
Phone: (603) 271-3575
Fax: (603) 271-1153

NOTE: Effective 10/21/04, you must have a Permit to Carry from ANY state before New Hampshire will issue you a non-resident New Hampshire Pistol/Revolver License. A Concealed Carry Permit with restrictions will be accepted by New Hampshire and they will issue you a non-resident License even with a Restricted Concealed Carry Permit.

In my case, a PA "Sportsman's Firearm Permit," which allows the concealed carry of a handgun while hunting, fishing, furtaking, or training dogs, and is issued at age 18 and up, counted as a "Restricted Concealed Carry Permit."

If NC doesn't issue anything like that, you'll need to apply for a permit from a different state. I've looked at all the states which have reciprocity with NC, and NH is the only one which issues at age 18. So you'd need to get a non-resident permit from another state which issues at 18, then use that to get the NH license. Maine and North Dakota both come to mind.

Maine costs $60, and you must provide proof of some manner of training, like an NRA course, and also need to send two passport-style photos. No fingerprints needed, though. Packing.org also lists that you must send copies of any CCW permits from any other states, but I believe this doesn't apply if you have no other permits. Maine law does not say that you must already have a permit to get one of theirs, that I could find, but you might want to call the Dept. of Public Safety (their licensing authority) there and ask, just to be sure.

ND requires you to take a gun course from an instructor on their approved list (there are a bunch in other states); cost for the instruction can be up to $50, plus $7 to $25 for fingerprints and photo, plus $25 for the license itself.


I should add in that getting a handgun might be complicated. In PA, at least, private sales of handguns must be conducted through an FFL, with the yellow form and everything, which means you need to be 21 no matter what to buy a handgun. But PA law does allow paperwork-free transfers of guns between spouses, between parent and child, and between grandparent and grandchild. So my only way of obtaining a handgun is if one of my parents buys it with their own money (if I pay for it, it's a straw buyer thing and a federal offense), then transfers it to me.

If NC law is the same, that's what you'll need to do, too. Either that or get married to someone 21 or older. But if NC does not place restrictions on private sales of handguns, you can buy one from anyone without an FFL at age 18 and up. If they buy a gun with the express purpose of selling it to you, though, it's a straw buyer offense again.

 

[mack69]

Control Group I know how you feel bud. Though your chances of getting CCW are much better than mine here in Illinois. My reasons for not moving are the same as yours. All my family and my wife's family are here....I'd still go but mrsmack says have a nice life....hehehhehee...mack

 

[Valkman]

I had no idea whether the stadium would be posted or not, but I saw no signs. Later I saw a list at a gate that listed prohibited stuff, and one thing was "dangerous weapons". Here in NV that would mean nothing to a CCW carrier, kind of like a "No Guns" sign means nothing. Don't know if I was correct or not to think I could carry there, but I did worry about it and the second day I left it in the truck.

 

[Spreadfire Arms]

be careful when you cross over Hoover Dam with a weapon. the guards running the checkpoints are Wackenhut Security. they wouldn't let me cross with my FFL inventory in a trailer because they were "concerned I was maybe trying to blow up Hoover Dam."

idiots. they make security personnel look like idiots. :banghead: they sent me on a 150 mile detour just to piss me off.

i hope one day Wackenhut loses every federal contract they have ever had.

 

[roo_ster]

Back when I carried my Kel-Tec P40 a lot, I often carried in an ankle holster or in the top of my western boots. This necessitated a mag change, as the boot would not accomodate the mag with the finger-ledge, but only the ledge-less mag.

Well, I go on about my way one day, only to return home & place the Kel-Tec in the pistol safe...whe nI discover I had been toting my Kel-Tec "Barney Fife" style: only ONE bullet!

I had forgotten to replace the mag in the Kel-tec & only had the round in the chamber.

 

[mbs357]

Whoo, this is tricky...and could get a bit expensive. I might want to wait until I get my feet successfully in school before I start trying to tackle something else. Thanks a bunch for the info, I'm saving it all. =X

 

[Phil Ca]

I used to do the elbow test with BOTH elbows whem working as a reserve officer in a Northern California own. we got a call to check on excessive noise at a quincenara, a coming-out party for 15 year old Mexican girls. The girls were all dressed in white gowns and their escorts in white tux outfits. The place was over crowded and the noise was a few decibels above ear-splitting. As we walked inside I instinctively kept my elbows in touch with my holstered .45 and my PR-24 side-handle baton.

As we crossed the dance floor several of the uninvited vinyard workers turned towards us and they all seemed to challenge us with their eyes. They all had been drinking and were looking for trouble IMO. As we pressed forward towards the person in charge some of the "cowboy" types would step in front of us. My policy was not to look into anyones eyes directly, not to stop and if my boot trod on someone in the way to keep moving and say nothing. At no time did my elbows stray from my pistol or baton.

When we got to the guy in charge and suggested that the hall was getting overcrowded and that he might want to shut off the cerveza to the vinyard workers he agreed. We also suggested that since it was getting on towards 10 PM that they might tone down the music a bit. About that time we were informed of a fight in the parking lot to the left of the building. We made our way to a side entrance and found about 10 people surrounding two would be combatants if they were sober enough. We moved in and got them apart and suggested that someone take them home.

Before the evening was over we called for mutual aid and got another city's K9 team and two double CHP units and a SO unit. As each unit arrived a certain number of bystanders decided it was time to go. By the ime the last unit arrived we had a pretty quiet area. Its too bad the girls coming-out party was almost always ruined by uninvited vinyard workers.

Back in the 70's I had just returned from a cross-country trip inspecting our field offices and I got word I was to be in Chicago to attend a Safety Conferance. I left on a Thursday so I could get in some personal time and visit a few nearby locations as well as a cousin and her family in Michigan. The next Monday was the start of the conferance and Zig Ziglar was to speak at the breakfast meeting. I had awakened a bit later than I planned and in my haste to be on ime and hear the keynote-speaker I left my revolver under my pillow. At the breakfast while drinking my orange juice I was going over in my mind some things from the night before as well as that morning. Imagine my surprise when I remembered that I left the revolver under the pillow!

I waited until a break in the program and scurried across the street from the Hilton hotel to my quarters and dashed to my room. The room was locked and the towels replaced and the bed neatly made up. The revolver was placed neatly under the pillow just as I had left it! I went around the floor until I found the black maid that was doing up another room. I asked if she had done up my room and gave the number. She smiled and assured me that she had done the room up already. I smiled back and thanked her for replacing everything properly. She just said, "I live in this town and I know what its like". Needless to say I gave her an extra tip! I have never left a firearm in a hotel room again either.

 

[El Rojo]

be careful when you cross over Hoover Dam with a weapon. the guards running the checkpoints are Wackenhut Security.

I was just there Friday and I didn't notice they were Wackenhut. Are you talking about the checkpoint guys? I guess I didn't look too hard at them. The cops at the dam site were feds, dept. of interior I believe. I did notice that the guys inspecting the bus at the checkpoint had revolvers, which leads me to believe they were probably Wackenhut. I worked for Wackenhut before they sold their corrections to GEO Group.

 

[peacefuljeffrey]

I know how you feel, one morning I reacted the same way when I thought I accidentally took my pocket knife to school.
Difference is, I actually did. >_<

Man, how times have changed. When I was in high school in the mid-late '80s, I DID bring a knife to school. Every day. Sometimes it was a tiny 1.25" Buck Gent, other times it was a Tekna Boot Knife in my knapsack. I was not a troublemaker, so I didn't really worry that they'd have to come out. But niether was I ever worried that I'd GO TO FRICKIN' JAIL if it were found out!!

-Jeffrey

 

[mbs357]

I have no idea what kind of reaction I'd get. I wouldn't be suprised if I was expelled, prosectuted, etc. It's a Gerber, black folding knife, and pretty evil looking with a four inch blade. I kept it at the bottom of my pocket the entire day occasionally checking its orientation so it wouldn't print my jeans. Juckily* when I found it, it was before class started and I was sitting down out in the hall, so I had some cover when I hid it.

*Left that there because it was funny. I typed it, looked at it for a bit...thought it looked odd but kept typing. XD Should've been 'luckily.'
My knife.

 

[TallPine]

Man, how times have changed. When I was in high school in the mid-late '80s, I DID bring a knife to school. Every day.

Well, yeah... back in the sixties every boy carried a knife in his pocket to school.

 

[mfree]

I once left "something important" in the trunk of my car overnight, forgot about it, and promptly went to work the next morning.

Since work is on *extremely* federal property, once I realized that "something important" was in the trunk I was rather uncomfortable for the rest of the day

Nothing like sitting in your office waiting for the raid...