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Is Open carry a Threat on you?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by BlazingAngel01, Apr 17, 2008.

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  1. BlazingAngel01

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    I thought of open carry came up today when I was at the range today.
    We looked over all the Laws to fit all the "well thats legal..... and so on.

    We went over the books and found out all the legal jargon.

    One of the guys that worked there fought it out that, you will have problems..Police involvement..and so on but then he said that if he sees anyone with a gun out side of a Range, Open carry or something in that line, That he would draw his gun and disarm them because "He feels like it is a threat and if needed he would open fire".:what:

    Can he do that?

    If you CCW guys ever saw someone open carry, would you do this?

    What qualifies as a threat in the CCW training? (States that need it)
     
  2. Pat-inCO

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    Do you recognize the phrase "loose cannon"? Sounds like you were talking to one. Either that or he was REALLY pulling your leg. :rolleyes:
     
  3. Cuda

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    Sounds like he has a death wish..

    I see people open carry all the time, no threat to me. I usually find it's an opportunity to chat with another 2A supporter...

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  4. WayneConrad

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    Please encourage the gentleman to go back to CCW class, with special emphasis on the legal requirements for when his sidearm should be used.

    Did you ask him how a holstered sidearm could possibly be a threat to his life?

    Pat-inCO must be right. Those are the only two choices that make sense.
     
  5. BlazingAngel01

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    Yeah and even at 21 Very immature.
     
  6. jakemccoy

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    He may be gay and trying to show you he's worthy of your affection. Seriously, that's what I'd be thinking if I heard something so flamboyant and ridiculous.

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    Depending on the attire, I'd probably assume an open carry person is a plain clothes cop. Macho dude at your range would do exactly the same. However, right now, he sounds like a wannabe cop.
     
  7. GhostlyKarliion

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    Absolutely, positively, 110% certain that he CAN NOT do that legally.

    In fact, if he were to try it, he would doubtlessly be charged with a laundry list of felonies. Especially if the OCer is fully within the law.

    Charged with felonies if he is lucky that is, if the guy he draws on doesn't end his one man vigilantly crusade with a well placed self defense shot.

    that is the most braindead thing I have heard all week.

    you are threatened if the person who has a gun is pointing it at you or someone else wthout legal justifiable cause.

    if you draw on someone OCing, then you have just broken the law, and the man who said he would do that needs to go take a few hours of training, like 80 of them.
     
  8. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    No.

    Not open carry.
     
  9. mnrivrat

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    That is the best fit I have read all week ! :D
     
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    What a Bozo! Seriously, did he happen to mention what it is about seeing someone OC thats such a threat?

    I don't need training outside of hunters education where I live, but I would think, uh, let me see...SOMEONE POINTS A GUN AT YOU. Which doesn't happen if someone is open carrying and minding their own business.
     
  11. Aguila Blanca

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    He can try.

    If he does, he will be guilty of assault with a deadly weapon, and he will asking for someone to shoot him in (legitimate) self-defense. Me carrying a pistol in a holster on my belt is not a threat to anyone. Him pointing a gun at me and issuing irrational and illegal orders is a lethal threat to me ... and I am entitled to respond with lethal force.

    Somebody beat me to it. The guy must have a death wish.
     
  12. Treo

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    I wouldn't try to draw on someone who was pointing a gun at me , unless I had no other option.

    I would however, sue the pants off the idiot before it was all over.

    What does your freind intend to do after he's disarmed the OCer?
     
  13. BlazingAngel01

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    I don't know after he said that, he started to talk about his time in Iraq.
     
  14. Dksimon

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    wow, I would say that he is looking to get himself shot.
    Under no circumstances would I disarm someone who is clearly not a threat. Because if I thought he was a threat with it in his holster he is damn sure going to be a threat when i shove a gun in his face.
     
  15. Treo

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    I would find someplace other than where he's at to be and be there!
     
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    Since the first person he is likely to see OCing would probably be a uniformed police officer, I can't help but think that were he to ever attempt such an insane proposition, the magnitude of how bad an idea it is would very quickly be brought to his attention. :D
     
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    Open carry is legal, by state constitution, here in Arizona. I live rurally and it is pretty common. I don't see it every day, but I do see it every week. I did it myself yesterday.

    If someone were to point a gun at me and disarm me I would assume he was up to something unpleasant. I may give up my gun, but I'd pop the sucker in the head with my BUG as soon as he took his eyes off of me and be completely justified.

    In the Intermountain West shooting police officers has been considered justifiable if the individual believed they were a threat to their life.

    I would never challenge a uniformed officer, unless their behavior was extremely out of character, but, if someone would decide to disarm me and I had broken no law, I'd neutralize the threat at the earliest opportunity.

    In the rural parts of Arizona police don't mess with people about their guns. Last time I got stopped we spent two hours BSing about his guns and my guns. I even got a tour of the cop car so we could compare notes.

    Draw on me and you can have my primary, you can even have my backup, but you better make darn sure you have my hole card before you look away.

    Your friend has a bit too much machismo going for him. He is reckless and reminds me of an old acquaintance. Guy was too macho and always answered the door with a pistol clearly visible.

    He got pistol whipped with his own gun. He was lucky. He did not end up perforated.

    Give him a little friendly advice. Tell him to calm down and not be such an idiot.
     
  18. BruceRDucer

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    Tell him to calm down and not be such an idiot.

    "Give him a little friendly advice. Tell him to calm down and not be such an idiot."---Loop

    LOL. Loop, I thought this was hilarious. Right on.

    Here's what happens when I see someone with a weapon, as long as he or she is just going about their business.

    Inside I do a mental blink, then a very sobering feeling. Then I feel very comfortable.
     
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    So here I am, sitting at the grocery store/target/gas station/hell anywhere and going about my daily business. It just so happens that today I wanted to open carry. And some moron comes out to me with their gun drawn? What do you think happens?

    Who ever you were talking to has a death wish and not a bit of common sense. If there's anyone who's a threat and needs to be disarmed is the man you're speaking of.
     
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    The open carry person could be an off duty cop, I think he was pulling your leg as well.
     
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    And people wonder why I call CCWers "Batmen".:D

    I hope we was pulling your leg.:uhoh:
     
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    He sounds like a dangerously unstable buffoon.
     
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    No threat to me, but if you have a CCW why OC?
     
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    Idiot.
     
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