2012 Shortage/Hoarding Mega Thread

[bubbacrabb]

I stocked up a lot over the past 4 years, possibly enough to last me the next 5 years or so. Preppers are not crazy, people that don't prep scare me. I'm not sayin get really crazy into it, but have some sort of plans and means to survive a little while

 

[Sky]

Heard on the radio a couple of hours back that Ruger was not taking orders due to huge back order so I looked it up and what do you know.. Ruger is one company with 1 million orders already for 2012......wow!

http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG...ridsurvival.com/rugerstopsacceptinggunorders/

SOUTHPORT, CT –Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. (NYSE-RGR), announced today that for the first quarter 2012, the Company has received orders for more than one million units. Therefore, the Company has temporarily suspended the acceptance of new orders.

 

[Old krow]

Think we are in for another run on what is on the shelf? I dunno. What do you guys think?

It's doubtful that we'll endure a shortage at all. Why would we? The number of concealed carry permits aren't on the rise. The number of gun sales aren't on the rise. We haven't been pushing back unconstitutional gun laws. The size of the shooting base hasn't been growing. There's been absolutely NO demand placed on the already mildly paranoid gun owners in the country due to the last elections.

Calm down folks! Buy your ammo in Nov, it'll still be there.

 

[fxstchewy]

I have plenty, i will not run out and by ANY firearm related items.

 

[Ky Larry]

There is plenty of brass, bullets, powder, and loaded ammo on local shelves. Primers are dissappearing. I checked all my local sources last week and all were short on primers. There are no small pistol primers to be had locally. Same as last time, it looks like primers will be our Achilles heel.

 

[Lt.Dan]

Thankfully I don't buy ammo, I make it haha. And I work part time at a gun store so they are available to me.

 

[22-rimfire]

During this time in 2008, I was concerned about price increases. I started buying factory ammo on a regular basis and my personal supply was more than adequate by the time (November 2008) when the rush to buy ammo hit.

If you believe that there will be a shortage as a result of any reason and it is important to you, I would start buying now on a regular basis, looking for best prices for the ammo or supplies you want.

 

[Omaha-BeenGlockin]

I bought 1000 rounds of 7.62x39 back in 03 for $80---with no rifle to shoot it--last week I traded for a Mini-30 in effect giving me 1000 rounds of ammo instantly---just need a few more factory mags.

Was in Wallyworld last night and they even had 2 guys behind the ammo counter selling---------Fishing Licenses------------the ammo was well stocked except for .223----but then again, they never have .223 in stock---just an empty hole in the cabinet.

I used my spare $20 to buy a new pair of cargo pants as my old ones have stains and are wearing thin------and I already have plenty of ammo and components at home.

I'll just stick with shooting .22's for a while till the dust settles and keep my heavy stuff in reserve just in case the collaspe really happens---.22's are cheap and fun to shoot anyway.

Guess all this rambling means I don't care about the Great Ammo Shortage of '12.

 

[mrvco]

Something tells me the manufacturers aren't going to leave that money on the table again. Unfortunately the marketing folks aren't going to be able to resist hearkening back to 2008 just to "make sure" that there isn't an over-supply situation.

 

[mbopp]

My local reloading supplier is also a regional distributor. He said CCI hasn't shipped them any 22 ammo since the first of the year. All they had left for SP primers were Remington, nothing else.
Missouri Bullet is running 2+ weeks behind and stopped accepting new retail customers. Yes, it's started.

 

[BullfrogKen]

Yep, all the sings point to a drought this summer.

 

[WinThePennant]

Believe it or not, but my LGS said he was starting to have a little trouble getting Glocks. They are still available, but the delivery time has increased substantially.

 

[EvilGenius]

I went to snag a value pack of .45acp from Wally world last week and the guy infront of me at the sporting goods counter bought all of their 9mm. 3-4k rds minimum.


Kinda felt like I was missing out on some fun. Guess he was just crazy?

 

[blarby]

I think its just sad that the possible " drought" and "hoarding" are giving justification for price gouging....this early especially.

Even here in the trade threads, on THR...gouging is going on, with this as the basis.

Comeon people........ we're in the same community for gosh sakes...this isn't a hurricane and plywood situation...be reasonable.

 

[stealth]

I went to snag a value pack of .45acp from Wally world last week and the guy infront of me at the sporting goods counter bought all of their 9mm. 3-4k rds minimum.


Kinda felt like I was missing out on some fun. Guess he was just crazy?

Ugh. Stocking up for yourself is one thing, buying up wally world to later sell it for inordinate prices is quite another. Come on feller, leave some for the rest of us.. ..please? I always do.

Ya think tax refund people put it into ammo? hmm.

A couple observations, I only looked at the two, but in both .22 and 9mm prices of fed bulk 550 and fed 100rnd has doubled since 08! Thats only 4 years. Not sure what Gold is at but its gotta be an even better rate than that - sorry, I just made things even worse by saying that, huh.

I should just shut up and join a stone forum, since thats all I'll be able to use for hunting. (What size rock for bear?)

 

[beatledog7]

Shortage of common sense?

I have enough factory, hand-rolled, and components to shoot at my normal pace for about the next 4 years. Unless something causes me to shoot more, I'm good.

 

[wildchild2010]

We are seeing a bit of hyper inflation in this country as the US dollars is not as strong or worth as much as it was 10 years ago.
Cost of doing business across the board has gone up and so will the prices. Commodity's have gone thru the roof in the last 5 years to.

 

[wildchild2010]

Oh boy. Here we go again.

It's called panic buying until the need actually occurs. Then the namesayers are on the web complaining. On another web site there was horrible name calling for shooters that had brought a lot of primers before the last shortage occurred. The whiners were going as far as to say that shooters should be only allowed to buy 100 primers at a time.

Panic buying, hoarding, prepping, stockpiling or whatever you want to call it is simply capitalism at work. It is the individual's choice on how to spend their disposable income. You have the exact same choices.

Alot of the panic buying last election were people who never own a firearms before. That is why the shortage of .22, .390, 9mm ammo.

 

[wildchild2010]

I'm fully stocked up on primers, powder, bullets and brass. I've been building my supply over the last two years. If there is going to be a shortage, it won't affect me. I can kick back and laugh at all the people buying primers for $80/brick.

Once a Republican gets into the whitehouse, it'll be all over. I've got plenty of components to carry me for about two years.

I hope you aren't talking about Mitt? Mr.anti gun.

 

[wildchild2010]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/22/gun-sales-off-to-bang-for-election-year/

I've noticed that the normally well stocked shelves at my local farm store and Walmart have been starting to look kind of bare recetly. Guess its time to go off my meds and start hoarding again. :banghead:

Look at the FBI background checks the last 3 years sales have gone up and not down.
More people are buying firearms and ammo more now than in the last 30 years.

 

[P5 Guy]

Search is Our Friend

I'm far from a Sage of Searching, so if one wants, please feel free.
Didn't this primer famine have its roots way back in the time of Benson/Clinton?
Didn't the "War on Terror" get blamed for no 7.62x39, 9mm, 5.56x45 on the shelves?
And finally the results of the 2008 election had 380ACP so scarce gold wasn't even close in value?
And somewhere in there was the commodity market took the hit for steep price increases.
I'm seeing a pattern/trend here, how about you?

 

[wildchild2010]

I'm far from a Sage of Searching, so if one wants, please feel free.
Didn't this primer famine have its roots way back in the time of Benson/Clinton?
Didn't the "War on Terror" get blamed for no 7.62x39, 9mm, 5.56x45 on the shelves?
And finally the results of the 2008 election had 380ACP so scarce gold wasn't even close in value?
And somewhere in there was the commodity market took the hit for steep price increases.
I'm seeing a pattern/trend here, how about you?

Just to give folks and idea of why the higher prices. I have some bullets, I bought 3 years ago that I paid $18.00 for 50 and now the same ones are $35.00 for the same 50 almost triple the price in the last 3 years.


Commodity prices, copper, brass, oil, gas, lead (with a lot of EPA regulation) have been running at all time highs. Fuel, transportation, insurance, mfg. ALL the costs have risen sharply which cost more for products.


Why are some gun mfg dumping lines for certain firearms? The cost of making the just isn't worth the cost. The 444 Marlin was chopped fron the 2012 catalog. YEP a gun that has been a favorite gun since the 60's.


Copper, daily 5 year spot price and warehouse supply
http://www.kitcometals.com/charts/copper_historical_large.html


The US dollar isn't worth not what it use to be 5, 10 years ago.
http://www.kitco.com/


Gun and Ammo Market charts
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/mattis1.html

 

[Redneck with a 40]

I just got back from Sportsman's Warehouse, they were having a "shooting" sale. I bought 5 boxes of UMC 308 Win at $13 each and 3 lbs of H-4895. That is the only powder I'm short on, so I went ahead and bought some, before they get cleaned out.

The .308 ammo comes out to 65 cents/round, great deal for factory ammo. Plus, I want the Remington brass to reload.

 

[blarby]

Just got back from wally world on a trip with the wife.

They had just about everything in stock.

Little low on 22LR bulk packs, and they were out of the UMC 45 bulk packs ( but they always are)

Looks like they are having a special on winchester X slugs and 00 buck, they had tons- and it was cheap.

 

[gfanikf]

The worst part is once others start doing it, you have to take some countermeasures, even if you just like to shoot every weekend and aren't planning to fight Richard Lynch's Army of Russian back troops or Dan Haydea's forces.

I'm am selling my .45 (which I loved, but it was an entry RIA so it's not like I'm a WWII era Colt) and got the Colt 1911-22 (Along with the New Ruger Single Six I already own). 45 is fun, but I'm not even going to attempt to keep up with ammo prices in .45 when stupid buying and pricing goes into full effect. I grab a more few bricks of 22 and I'll be good for a long time (2100 rounds at Cabelas for ~75 with free shipping).

The only other caliber I have is 223/556 for my Ruger Mini-14. That's the one I'm going to have to start doing strategic buying with. My wife and I had our first child back in Jan and while I really love shooting, family comes first. I'd rather not have to worry in August about needing to get new ammo, but I'm not going just drop $200-300 for 1000 rounds (well maybe after tax refunds), so I need to figure out how to do this in piecemeal (and actually build a surplus and not shoot everything first.