A true "vest pocket" 22 would be a Beretta Mod 21 or a Taurus PT22. Both are small tip up barrel models. Not sure how accurate they are but they would be better than nothing. At some point there were longer aftermarket barrels available for them.
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chicharrones
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Yeah, he needs bigger than that since those won't consistently hit a Ritz cracker at 15+ yards. At least the Beretta Bobcat won't in my hands unless maybe I throw it and get lucky on where it lands.
Gordon
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Tried all mentioned and have most but my vote also goes for "My vote would be for the Ruger 22/45 with the threaded barrel. They are ultra reliable and rugged. If noise is a concern, you could add a suppressor. They have adjustable sights." as they are more reliable than everything except MAYBE and old Walther PP with good mags. The following seem good, but never tried one yet!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra5GBUf44ms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra5GBUf44ms
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FP,
I usually carry a CZ-75 9MM with me when flying my plane, and I keep the Kadet Kit .22LR conversion in my survival kit. However, if you are looking for a reliable accurate dedicated .22LR the Ruger MK series is a good choice. If you want to keep it light a 4 inch bull barrel, polymer framed 22/45 is a good option. I have one, and it does fly with me sometimes. Stone cold reliable with mini mags. and most bulk ammo. The new 22/45 "Lite" model also gets good reviews.
I have rather large hands, and shot a friends Ruger SR22 recently. It felt a bit small to me but functioned great. Not quite as accurate as the MK series.
You can't go wrong with a Browning Buckmark either, but I think the Rugers are a little more overbuilt, and sturdy.
I used a vest when I was based in the Colorado Rockies, but don't use it much where I am now. However, if it isn't strapped onto you, it's luggage, as you know.
I usually carry a CZ-75 9MM with me when flying my plane, and I keep the Kadet Kit .22LR conversion in my survival kit. However, if you are looking for a reliable accurate dedicated .22LR the Ruger MK series is a good choice. If you want to keep it light a 4 inch bull barrel, polymer framed 22/45 is a good option. I have one, and it does fly with me sometimes. Stone cold reliable with mini mags. and most bulk ammo. The new 22/45 "Lite" model also gets good reviews.
I have rather large hands, and shot a friends Ruger SR22 recently. It felt a bit small to me but functioned great. Not quite as accurate as the MK series.
You can't go wrong with a Browning Buckmark either, but I think the Rugers are a little more overbuilt, and sturdy.
I used a vest when I was based in the Colorado Rockies, but don't use it much where I am now. However, if it isn't strapped onto you, it's luggage, as you know.
Vern Humphrey
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I'll cast my vote for the Ruger MKII. For some reason, people are willing to accept all sorts of weird equipment for "survival" use -- equipment they would never select if they were actually going hunting, camping or hiking. Get a gun that will work in a hunting situation and it will work for survival.
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Yet another vote for a Beretta Model 70S. Fairly compact and lightweight, super reliable with everything I have ever put through it, along with a great SA trigger and a decent adjustable rear sight. I had mine hard chrome plated due to some problems with the original blued finish. Still my first choice for an all-around backwoods Kit Gun.
A Beretta 21 can be fired with surprising accuracy. Otherwise, jump up to a Bersa .22 - based on their PP sized .380s. Very accurate, and much higher quality than the P22/Mosquito type range guns.
I don't see the point of lugging around something as big as a Ruger MKII unless you want to leave the Marlin at home and replace it with a shotgun for bear.
I don't see the point of lugging around something as big as a Ruger MKII unless you want to leave the Marlin at home and replace it with a shotgun for bear.
wow6599
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The Ruger 22/45 Lite is an awesome firearm. I shot one, and it felt great and was really lite. Accurate too.
The Buckmark is a great .22 handgun, but it seems more like a camping or plinking type firearm. The Ruger is 11 oz lighter than the Buckmark.....
The "Sig" Mosquito is garbage. I shot one that would have failures almost every magazine. My father-in-law bought one and almost lost his religion with that gun.....pure crap.
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Float Pilot
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There would be no reason to carry or use a 9mm here in Alaska as a field gun.
During bear season I usually either carry a 6 inch model-29 44 mag, with 300 grain hard-cast handloads, in a chest holster.
Or,,,sometimes I will carry my modified Glock 20 with 200 grain FMJs hand-loaded to 1200 fps. Again in a chest holster.
Even those are marginal as big brown bear protection.
Didn't mean to imply that the 9x19 would suffice for big critters but only that more options can be valuable if you don't sacrifice the primary goal to fulfill them.
B
Tough to beat a Mk II
Not that I'm a survival expert by any means! But this one is plenty accurate, and tough as a bag of hammers.
I don't think I've ever had a malf. with it! Perhaps put some Hogue aluminum grips on it like these?
Might be a little big for the vest, though.
Not that I'm a survival expert by any means! But this one is plenty accurate, and tough as a bag of hammers.
I don't think I've ever had a malf. with it! Perhaps put some Hogue aluminum grips on it like these?
Might be a little big for the vest, though.
Leadbutt
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Know space is at a premium on the vest and weight mite be an issue, but have you looked at a Ruger single action, 22 combo, weight is decent,adjustable sights and have the 22 mag cylinder if you want to bump up.
toivo
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I have a PT22, and I feel that I'm doing well if I can hit a sheet of notebook paper at 15 yards. Forget the Ritz cracker. The Beretta may be more accurate, especially since it has a single-action option.chicharrones said:
If you want fully adjustable sights, I'd say a Browning Buck Mark or a Ruger: either a MK III 22/45 or a Single Six .22LR/.22WMR convertible. If you can live with an accurate pistol that is only windage-adjustable, you could do a lot worse than the Bersa that RX-79G mentioned:
Mine has been 100% reliable with Mini-Mags. If you practice with it, you should be able to hit your Ritz cracker.
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Vern Humphrey
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I'd take a candidate gun squirrel hunting -- and if I couldn't bag a mess of squirrels, I'd look for another gun.
An alternative might be a centerfire revolver -- say a S&W Model 10 with a mixture of wadcutters and shot loads.
BSA1
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As I foresee it your needs are;
1. Signaling for help
2. Killing small game for food
3. Self-defense
Comments;
1. While not as loud as bigger calibers the 22 is louder than yelling.
2. It is quickly easy based on the responses who has hunted small game with a handgun. The most common game is going to be birds and small mammels such as rabbits. Preventing meat destruction would be just as high on the scale (maybe more) than accuracy. Shooting a couple large game birds such as Grouse and Rabbits require careful shot placement (head shots ideally) while leaving as much meat as possible.
The best weapon for self defense is fire but it is a little hard to carry. While certainly lacking in TKO 22's have been proven to work.
My choices are;
Ruger semi-auto or Browning Buck Mark with extra magazine(s). The gun isn't worth much if it's magazine is missing.
Ruger Single Six or Single Ten revolver. I would choose the Single Six in 22 Magnum as it is louder (signaling) and more powerful for bigger game. This would likely be my first choice.
My third choice is a double action revolver such as the S&W Kit Gun or a Taurus with 4" barrel.
1. Signaling for help
2. Killing small game for food
3. Self-defense
Comments;
1. While not as loud as bigger calibers the 22 is louder than yelling.
2. It is quickly easy based on the responses who has hunted small game with a handgun. The most common game is going to be birds and small mammels such as rabbits. Preventing meat destruction would be just as high on the scale (maybe more) than accuracy. Shooting a couple large game birds such as Grouse and Rabbits require careful shot placement (head shots ideally) while leaving as much meat as possible.
The best weapon for self defense is fire but it is a little hard to carry. While certainly lacking in TKO 22's have been proven to work.
My choices are;
Ruger semi-auto or Browning Buck Mark with extra magazine(s). The gun isn't worth much if it's magazine is missing.
Ruger Single Six or Single Ten revolver. I would choose the Single Six in 22 Magnum as it is louder (signaling) and more powerful for bigger game. This would likely be my first choice.
My third choice is a double action revolver such as the S&W Kit Gun or a Taurus with 4" barrel.
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Willie Sutton
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Model 63 S&W. The classic J frame kit gun in stainless.
Anything else is a lesser choice.
I carry a M-9 in mine though... ;-)
Willie
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Anything else is a lesser choice.
I carry a M-9 in mine though... ;-)
Willie
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I like my 2214 about as well as you like your 2213
However as a survival gun it is a bit finicky on ammo choices, some european and bargain basement stuff will lock it up causing a few merry minutes spent freeing the action up.
My, (OK, My Wife's), AirLite Kit Gun is a better choice because it isn't at all finicky about ammo.
However as a survival gun it is a bit finicky on ammo choices, some european and bargain basement stuff will lock it up causing a few merry minutes spent freeing the action up.
My, (OK, My Wife's), AirLite Kit Gun is a better choice because it isn't at all finicky about ammo.
moojpg2
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my vote is for ruger single 10 or single six. the semi autos are great but way too finicky with ammo, and they don't work when they're dirty.
BSA1
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No disrespect to the small guns that keep getting posted but they simply do not meet all of needs of a true survival situation They are all too small and not accurate enough to be used for real life small game hunting.
Another possible choice in theory although I withhold final opinion until the price comes down and actual field reports come in would be the KelTech PMR 30.
With a 30 round mag in the gun and a spare 30 round mag 60 rounds of 22 Magnum is a lot of firepower in a convenient package.
stanmo,
As a die hard revolver user that S&W looks good if accuracy holds up. Do they make it 22 Magnum?
Another possible choice in theory although I withhold final opinion until the price comes down and actual field reports come in would be the KelTech PMR 30.
With a 30 round mag in the gun and a spare 30 round mag 60 rounds of 22 Magnum is a lot of firepower in a convenient package.
stanmo,
As a die hard revolver user that S&W looks good if accuracy holds up. Do they make it 22 Magnum?
chicharrones
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The Bersa is a huge improvement over the mini-Beretta. I have one in .22LR as well. Yet, a Ritz cracker is still fairly safe on that first shot at 15 yards from me using the Bersa. My H&R 999 with adjustable precise sights gives me much more confidence at that range on a 1st shot hit, even with its heavy trigger.
Too bad the OP had a bad experience with his revolver. I pretty much think an aluminum frame DA/SA .22LR revolver with good adjustable sights would be just about perfect.
The Taurus 94 is a 9 shot stainless steel revolver and the 941 is an 8 shot 22mag. Have owned both and both were reliable and quite accurate. These would be cheaper than a Smith and come with an excellent warranty, not to mention the SS versions offer greater corrosion resistance...adj sights too.
Here's a link to their website...go to small frame revolvers and then to page 2 for the 22s.
http://www.taurususa.com/gun-selector-results.cfm?name=Small
Here's a link to their website...go to small frame revolvers and then to page 2 for the 22s.
http://www.taurususa.com/gun-selector-results.cfm?name=Small
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