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Has anyone tried the newer NAA mini mag guns with the 4 inch barrel? it looks tempting as a BUG. I wondered if the 4" made the velocity and accuracy considerably better than those 1 and 1.6 inch jobs. I had one with both cylinders 15 years ago, but found no use for it because of the 1 inch barrel and sold it. What is the minimum length that one needs to make the 22mag work properly as far as expansion and penetration, if it expands at all?
 
Not interested in the longer barrels. Other than for fun, mine is strictly a last ditch (of first gun depending on attire) for pretty deep concealment. True it's not going to hit very hard, but along with a sharp stick I figure I could do something.
 
Looks really promising as far as building velocity, but still ain't much on gripping or sighting the gun. They need to up size the beast a touch to fix those issues before I get interested, but the longer barrel is a step in the right direction.
 
Speer makes a .22mag designed for short barrels now, I think 2in, so it should be fine from a 4in barrel.

The NAAs are a nitch firearm but I like them a lot for what they are.

Used to carry mine on the place in GA with snake shot in it for the rattlers there.
 
Why not use something more practical for a BUG? Like a traditional small revolver or auto in a centerfire caliber 380/38 special or better?
 
I don't think the 4" NAAs are really optimized for BUG use, so much as bug-out use. The 4" models have full decent sights and are designed to be shootable at small game hunting range by people of moderate skill. They would make excellent kit guns for backpackers who wanted to be able to hunt for food in the back country.

The BUG NAA is the pug. Tritium XS big dot front/shallow vee rear sight for quick acquisition day or night, plenty of oomph for short range use, and it can conceal in circumstances that basically no other gun made can.
 
Even with the short barrels you can get a better "pocket" gun without much more size. Lots more choices if you stick a 4" barrel on one.

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The advantage of the short barreled NAA isn't so much size, which is pretty much limited to what the human hand can hold anyway, but the shape is different.

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P3AT vs Pug. The muzzles are lined up, and the cylinder is out to show that the breeches are nearly aligned as well. The P3AT is far more "gun" shaped object.
 

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I have the 1" in .22 mag. For me the platform calls for the 1" barrel to be in .22lr, the 2" in .22mag. Anything longer chose another gun.
 
I've never been a fan of the smaller NAAs. They just don't fit my hand well enough to be accurate. However, a couple of years ago I picked up one of the NAA Black Widows. The larger magnum frame, two inch heavy barrel, larger grips and enhanced sights make this an "always gun" for me. Regardless of whatever else I may have on me, its always in my pocket. About the same weight as a pocket knife and very accurate. Mine is the .22 magnum/.22 long rifle.

Back at the start of this summer, I was working outside and heard my dog barking. I went to investigate and found about a 3 and a half foot copperhead coiled up and striking at her. The .22 magnum made short work of the threat.

Side Note: I purchased two of these in one day. I bought the first Black Widow and when I walked in the house with it, my wife said "I really like that." A few minutes later she said again, "I really like that." I went back to town and bought me one. It is also her "always gun."
 

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I'm all for leaving snakes alone and always do out in the wild, but if they are in my yard I prefer to take them out lest my grandkids get bit.
 
PRM...just walking away is enough to save you from that "threat" also.

Nope, in my yard, striking at my dog... well, nuff said.
 
Alfonsdewolf, he posted that, while he may not have been in danger from the snake, his dog was.

I doubt that I would have just walked away, either.
 
Actually, I'd put down any animal to save my dog. My point is many people are bitten when they chose to get too close. Take a few steps back (with dog) and that stops the threat immediately. Some don't follow that simple rule.

I had a 12' baby rattler in CO next to my front door. I put him in a bucket and released him 5 miles away in appropriate territory. My neighbors couldn't believe I didn't chop him in two, but it wasn't my place to take that critter off this earth. At least I can live with myself.
 
I'm all for leaving snakes alone and always do out in the wild, but if they are in my yard I prefer to take them out lest my grandkids get bit.

I'll take the nonvenimus snakes back to the woods but a poisonous snake in the yard gets relocated to snake heaven.
 
Oh gheez....i flubbed....1' or 12". He was kinda cute really.

Rattlesnake thoughts....about a decade ago my brother in Redding CA told me he killed all the rattlers on his acreage he could, 19 in one year. He had dogs. I understood his concerns, but told him he might learn the good they do. That winter or the next his house was crawling with mice. He stopped killing the snakes.
 
I've never been a fan of the smaller NAAs. They just don't fit my hand well enough to be accurate. However, a couple of years ago I picked up one of the NAA Black Widows. The larger magnum frame, two inch heavy barrel, larger grips and enhanced sights make this an "always gun" for me. Regardless of whatever else I may have on me, its always in my pocket. About the same weight as a pocket knife and very accurate. Mine is the .22 magnum/.22 long rifle.

Back at the start of this summer, I was working outside and heard my dog barking. I went to investigate and found about a 3 and a half foot copperhead coiled up and striking at her. The .22 magnum made short work of the threat.

Side Note: I purchased two of these in one day. I bought the first Black Widow and when I walked in the house with it, my wife said "I really like that." A few minutes later she said again, "I really like that." I went back to town and bought me one. It is also her "always gun."
My wife and I each have Black Widows also. We're partial to the holster grip.
 
A friend of mines friend is in the hospital because of a rattlesnake bit, she was pregnant and lost the baby. No rattlesnakes here in north Idaho but if there were I'd be killing all I could find. The good rattlesnakes do will never be worth the child lost!!

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The Earl I've got with the 4 inch barrel can manage to make 6 to 7 inch groups at 20 yards. And most of that inaccuracy is due to the difficulty in gripping the gun. The gun itself is a fine shooter. It's the difficulty in gripping it which causes trouble
 
I like my NAA .22lr short bbl with the clip grip as my BU. Anything with a longer bbl and I might as well carry another 642.

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I had the 4 inch Mini Master with both .22 Mag and .22 LR cylinders. Also had the 2 smaller NAA mini revolvers in .22 LR and .22 WMR.
I did not find the Mini Master to be that accurate even with laser sights. It was more of an novelty for me. Also shooting with the .22 WMR, the screw kept working its way out from under the cylinder so I sent it back to NAA and they replaced it with a better locking one.
 
I have and carry a Black Widow every day and it serves its purpose very well. I use it to dispatch garden rabbits mostly. With some of the modern 22wmr it delivers enough power to be effective and at 10.6 oz including pocket holster and ammo it does not pull my pants down.
 
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