22 Rifle for Home/Defense?

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I am neither smug nor a keyboard commando. You, however, are a Quisling; more concerned with the opinions of fellow liberals than your own safety, and prioritizing a liberal agenda over fundamental human rights. While you may own a gun, you are not representative in any way of the gun owners I know-they do not hate or distrust guns, do not blame them for violence and do not support their restrictions.

The cognitive dissonance you must experience on this forum is probably worthy of a thesis.

Larry
 
Seriously, a Ruger 10/22 with a tqctical stock w rails so you can attach a light, a mini red dot, BX25s, and some mini mags or other hot high quality .22 ammo, would be nothing to perform the sneezing towards.
 
RM, not sure what your deal is, but I don't think you are seeking approval from fellow "liberals" here- you won't find any. Obviously, you don't care what people think of your opinions, and that's OK- admirable even.
I think you will find a sort of acceptance here if you provide clear and logical reasoning for your, umm, unpopular, views.

But don't be surprised when we call you out on them.
 
Rocketmedic said:
Wow. I didn't know the Israelis were that brutal or savage. Shooting protesters with real firearms and lethal ammo...that's disappointing and disturbing and unethical. Use real LTL devices and weapons, or don't even perpetuate the fraud. Why do we support these people?

Somehow I doubt this would be even remotely acceptable if an American police department did it...
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The IDF uses .22 rifle such as the 10/22 and SR22 as a LETHAL force option and in their doctrine, it is NOT considered nor classifieds as a less lethal option.

They are use when lethal force is justified but in hope to reduce collateral damage. They can be used to disable the attacker more easily without flat out killing them or severely wounding them like a 5.56 or 7.62 is apt to do.

They are always covered by 5.56 or 7.62 if they fail to stop the threat, but their thinking is a .22 will produce less harm and will stop many people with good shot placement but hopefully reduce the risk of death.
 
"22LR isn't terribly likely to be banned or controlled in contrast to 5.56x45"

FWIW, DiFi's just introduced assault weapons ban outlaws a M&P 15/22, but not a wood stocked Mini-14.
 
Rocketmedic said:
22LR isn't terribly likely to be banned or controlled in contrast to 5.56x45.
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If only that were so...

.22 lr relies on a lead bullet, something States like California love to hate. Any number of accessories for the "lowely" 10/22 have made it on to the ban list, including stocks and its standard 10-round magazine.

Now; having viewed both your original question and your subsequent statements I should like to amend my suggestion:

Either choose a non-lethal form of protection against aggressors or the largest caliber you can afford, so as not to become what you despise (a blood thirsty gun clinger or an agent of evil who would toy with another human by means of wounding with small caliber arms).

I am liberal enough to accept our differences but not hypocritical enough as to deny that a threat to my life or the lives of my family will be met with any means at my disposal. So long as the Second Amendment remains a part of Our Constitution I will exercise my Right, just like you.

You appear keenly aware of varying situations such as the danger of over penetration yet blissfully ignorant to alternative circumstances that others find themselves in. I too drove a compact car before having three kids led to an "evil" SUV.
 
Skylerbone said:
If only that were so...

.22 lr relies on a lead bullet, something States like California love to hate. Any number of accessories for the "lowely" 10/22 have made it on to the ban list, including stocks and its standard 10-round magazine.

Now; having viewed both your original question and your subsequent statements I should like to amend my suggestion:

Either choose a non-lethal form of protection against aggressors or the largest caliber you can afford, so as not to become what you despise (a blood thirsty gun clinger or an agent of evil who would toy with another human by means of wounding with small caliber arms).

I am liberal enough to accept our differences but not hypocritical enough as to deny that a threat to my life or the lives of my family will be met with any means at my disposal. So long as the Second Amendment remains a part of Our Constitution I will exercise my Right, just like you.

You appear keenly aware of varying situations such as the danger of over penetration yet blissfully ignorant to alternative circumstances that others find themselves in. I too drove a compact car before having three kids led to an "evil" SUV.
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There's a world of difference between knee capping protestors against illegal settlement expansion on the West Bank and ending the threat posed by a home invader in Houston.
 
Rocketmedic said:
There's a world of difference between knee capping protestors against illegal settlement expansion on the West Bank and ending the threat posed by a home invader in Houston.
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For once I can agree with you. There is a big difference between Israel defending against those who have vowed to destroy it and you protecting your thin walled apartment.
 
Rocketmedic said:
There's a world of difference between knee capping protestors against illegal settlement expansion on the West Bank and ending the threat posed by a home invader in Houston.
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Only because you believe in your right to occupy that space. What of the poor, underprivileged person who may only be seeking refuge? Is there no room in your house for him to occupy? Surely you are a man of compassion and would afford safe harbour to those who avow to wipe you from the Earth. You see, no difference, only your intolerance of others using your same method for protection. You'll need to re-label yourself "Progressive" as "Liberal" you truly aren't.

As a Progressive I realize you feel a measure of tolerance must be afforded you which you dare not grant others, like the "right" to "protest" by killing police and military, school children, unarmed citizens. You can throw bricks, loot, burn, and cause chaos because any means are justified in seeking your ends. And only tyrants would be so cruel as to thwart your attempts by knee capping (is that really what they do???, I didn't click through to read) to end such a sensible gathering.

FWIW, not that you'll believe it, there are no Palestinians. No independent language, dialect, ethnicity, or culture that would distinguish people of that label from those around them. The only real division is one of religion wherein the entirety of the Middle East surrounding Israel is determined to kill its people for practicing their religion and golly gee, they don't want to be killed for choosing to be different. "Palestinians" are free to settle anywhere else in the region, not so for Israelis. Those who believe Israel is Palestinian land ought to study geography before making that claim from Houston, Texas.
 
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......And another thread soon to be closed because of the same ‘ole, ignorant, liberal. Rocket, seriously, why don’t you do some real research before you post stupidity. We can disagree on things. But at least if you have credible research, you won’t look AS bad.

FYI, if your source has “News Network” in the title, it’s not credible.
 
Mods, I think we can close this one, it seems to be drifting from the high road. Seems like a lot of members here have no tolerance for anyone who doesn't MAGA.
 
Rocketmedic said:
Mods, I think we can close this one, it seems to be drifting from the high road. Seems like a lot of members here have no tolerance for anyone who doesn't MAGA.
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As good citizens, isn’t that what we’re supposed to do? Defend our country and it’s Constitution from those who seek to destroy or diminish it? And once again, rather than defend your position with facts, you just want to take your ball and go home.
 
And as for Israel/Palestine:

I think Israel has a right to exist and defend itself. I also think that they ought to behave as a civilized nation and take the high road instead of killing hundreds-to-thousands of innocent civilians being used as human shields (Gaza 2014, or the Chicago-like drip of deaths from the West Bank) and writing off anyone who disagrees with them as a violent radical terrorist. Their conduct now is the same as ours was in Vietnam in the late 60s, and with fifty years of hindsight, I think we can agree we could have handled it a lot better. Not shooting protesters with a 22 in lieu of a designed LTL is a tiny start in that direction that they already took, so good on them.
 
.. and who turned it into an "Israel's-rights" thread?

The original question seemed legitimate, to seek advice on building an effective home-defense rifle in the .22LR caliber (a "non-controversial" caliber.)

But, the real reason behind the endeavor seems to have been to then further a cause to ban rifles in any other.
 
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