22-rimfire
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All I can say is those 22 rimfire's sure are a poor choice for self defense.....
During the World War 2 American government established an Office of Strategic Services (OSS), an intellegence and special operations agency. Among other things, the OSS sent undercover agents to occupied and enemy countries and supplied friendly resistance forces with equipment and weapons. Many clandestine operations, planned and performed by OSS, required silenced weapons, and a request has been sent to develop such a weapon. During 1943, a group of engineers at Bell Telephone Labs designed several silenced semiautomatic pistols, based on various small-bore target pistols made by Colt and High Standard. By late 1943, OSS choose the modified .22 caliber Hi-Standard HD pistol, fitted with integral silencer, and issued a contract for production of this weapon to High Standard Manufacturing corporation. During 1944, High Standard produced several thousands of these pistols, officially designated as "model HDM", but better known simply as "OSS pistols". After the war, Hi-Standard HDM pistols were used by CIA and military special operations personnel during Korean and Vietnam wars, as well as in a number of Cold War operations. It is also possible that few Hi-Standard HDM pistols survived long enough to be used during the Gulf War of 1991. However, probably the most famous user of the Hi-Standard HDM pistol was probably the Francis Gary Powers, an CIA pilot who was shot down in 1960 over the Soviet Union, when conduction spy flight on U2 airplane.
A Ruger 10/22 would make a higly desirable military weapon. It is light, reliable, shoots very accurately, and is easy to clean. It can go many many rounds without so much as any cleaning.
__________________I wouldn't turn my nose up at a 10-22,but for combat I'd rather have a Mini-14,or better yet an M-14.
Not necessarily. The .22 in particular is notorious for not penetrating in a straight line. A "well-placed" shot will often miss the vitals.Seriously, well placed shots with a 22 can do the job.
It's no more powerful than non-jacketed rounds. And those used in Viet Nam were subsonic -- which made them less powerful than modern Wal-Mart bulk packs.jacketed 22 lr is a complicated little very powerful round.
The .22 in particular is notorious for not penetrating in a straight line. A "well-placed" shot will often miss the vitals.
The Colt ACE was developed for the military for training purposes. The intent was to simulate the recoil of a 1911 45ACP at lower cost.
Mossberg made military 22 target rifles, again for training.
If you live long enough to get off a second or third shot.That's why you shoot more than once.
the jacketed 22lr with lead core is a wonderful round however the jacketed "non tox green"core 22 lr is certainly a solution to the cali and other states that will soon implement lead in ammo bans.the question arises why are we still shooting antiquated soft lead over-lubed stuff when the technology is around for better?
A Ruger 10/22 would make a higly desirable military weapon.
Originally posted by runrabbitrun:
Why do I keep remembering what
ALL the ladies say about those guys with BIG motors on little boats?
Most can confirm, there is an 'overcompensation thing' going on. LMAO
Seriously, well placed shots with a 22 can do the job.
But to each their own.
If a BIGGER weapon is what makes you feel safer (and bigger).
I say go for it.
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I'm happy to have a 22 rifle with a pretty decent scope, but I don't consider it as my SD weapon.
It's more for plinking and if need be, for hunting small game.
My go to SD weapon in the home or traveling is and will probably always be my Browning HP 9mm handgun.
For hunting large animals, or fending off would be looters/BGs in the event of some possible future 'situation'...
I can use my SKS for that.
10/22 is NOT a SD weapon