I never made any such implication that 'unethical' shots should be taken, and from my experience there is something about the Swede which doesn't happen with other rounds, penetration being one of them, and the results I mentioned. You weren't there, so knock off the unethical garbage. NO hunter puts every round in the kill zone, even the guys on TV. I witnessed two hunters just last month at a ranch in NM I was at muff shots and lose elk that weren't found until the next day. The first instance I mentioned with the Barbary Sheep was in a 40 MPH crosswind, the second with a Pronghorn was an animal already wounded. Both were recovered same day in good shape.