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.308 win ?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by James1, Aug 4, 2007.

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  1. James1

    James1 Member

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    I just picked me up a new 308 win on friday and wanted to start reloading it. I was looking at my lees reloading book and aa2460 looked to be one of the better ones with out having to compress the charges. Any ideas on what would be better or will this work out just fine?
     
  2. cdrt

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    I usually load IMR 4895 since I'm dealing with a gas gun, but AA 2460 is a good powder for the .308. Compressing loads is really not a big issue; the reloading manual you use will warn you of any problems. Just start at the min load and work your way up.
     
  3. Peter M. Eick

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    I have had good luck with 4895 and 168's and 4064 for 168's and 155's. Varget has a good reputatin, but for every pound of varget & 4064 I shoot 4 lbs of IMR4895. This is all for an M1A.
     
  4. 45ACPUSER

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    Varget with BR2 primers
    RL 15 with Fed 210M primers
    IMR 4895 with WLR primers
    IMR 4064 with WLR primers or Fed 210
    IMR 3031 with Fed 210 M

    Use only WW or Lapua if you are looking for case life.
    Neck sizing for a bolt gun is the way to go.
     
  5. Sunray

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    The .308 loves 165 grain hunting bullets(for any game you hunt) and 168 grain match bullets with IMR4064 and regular large rifle primers. 175 grain Matchkings with the same powder and primers work well for distances past 600 yards too.
    Compressed charges are nothing to worry about. Nor do you need any special tools. When you seat the bullet, the powder will be compressed with no fuss.
     
  6. NuJudge

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    What rifling twist, and paper targets or what game?

    My experience with the .308 has been solely with 1:10 twist, a lot with gas guns and a bit with manual bolt actions. Ball/Spherical/globular powders have a reputation for high pressures in the high temperatures I frequently shoot in, so they are out for me.

    I like 4895 and 165 or 168 grain bullets.
     
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    I have good results with WW748 in my bolt gun.
     
  9. dmftoy1

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    I've had really good luck with H335 under a 168 Sierra MK in my bolt action. The reason I've been playing with H335 is that I had it on hand from loading my AR. I went with Varget because of some advice here and while it's been good I've never been able to duplicate my initial efforts with H335. FWIW

    Have a good one,
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  10. GunTech

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    4895 and 4064 are pretty standard powders for match shooting. 2520 is another good powder, and it meters like water. VV N135 and N140 are super clean powders and very consistent. Lots of good suggestions here. What bullet are you thiking?
     
  11. Hutch

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    Just another suggestion... I have had great success with H380 and the Sierra 168gr MK. In a 26" 700vs, 46.1 delivers almost exactly 2600fps with little deviation.
     
  12. MCgunner

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    For hunting in my M7 remington 20" barrel:

    48.5 grains W748 150 grain Nosler BT 2773 fps

    48.5 grains W748 140 grain Barnes X 2822 fps

    Both of these loads are MOA out of my Remington. The 150 is great on deer. I shoot the 140 on hogs, controlled expansion and the solid copper Barnes has a sectional density about like a 160 grain lead bullet, great for penetrating heavier game. If I used this rifle for elk, the Barnes would be my load of choice. Both of these loads shoot to the same POA/POI. The 200 grain load zeros at 200 yards, the 140 at 250. I have the trajectory charts taped to the scope so I don't get confused, but for practical hunting in my neck of the woods, just hold on the shoulder and squeeze the trigger. I don't get shots past 200 yards here. Out west I'd probably tote the gun with the 140 since it shoots a little longer PBR as sighted.

    Works for me, anyway. :D Winchester ball powder meters very well, too. I actually use a Lee Auto Disc measure to charge these loads and it's very consistent. I just run an empty .45-70 case into the measure to charge and dump it in the case with a funnel. I can also check charge weight every five rounds with my digital balance by taring the brass first. Real quick loading, no manual weighing. I like that. :D And, don't have to mess with that stupid adjustable measure, just pop in the proper disc and start loading.
     
  13. Adventurer_96

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    Don't forget TAC. Depending on where you're at, if they carry Ramshot powders, TAC can be a fair amount cheaper than Hodgson or Alliant powders in many cases.

    TAC is my .308 powder, although 3031 performs well, I just hate how it doesn't meter well. TAC meters well, is temperature stable, and gives great performance in my M14. I'll be trying it in bolt guns in the coming months.
     
  14. GunTech

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    Have not tried TAC. What's the port pressure like? Closer to 4064 or 4895?
     
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    Any one have a suggestion for a cheap bullet for punching holes in paper at 100-300 yards?

    I am getting ready to load for .308 as well.
     
  16. GunTech

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    You can sometimes find military pulls really cheap. River Valley Ordnance has 30-05 pulls for $55 per thousand. They work just fine in a 308, but you have to seat past the canneleur.

    http://www.rvow.com/surplus bullets.htm
     
  17. ohwell

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    H335 Varget and have tried BLC2
    most accurate load from my gun is as follows
    155 grain Amax
    2.80 OAL
    41.5 grains of H335
    BR2 primers
     
  18. Adventurer_96

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    I'm not sure, but I believe that it's closer to 4895. Apparently, you can load to high velocities without having case pressure issues in some calibers, according to their literature. And, IIRC, 4064 burns faster than 4895. I could be wrong though.
     
  19. Dave R

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    Me too.
     
  20. USSR

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    Nope, 4064 is slightly slower than 4895.

    Don
     
  21. Owens

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    This little recipe has astounding accuracy in my Rem 700 PSS:
    Lapua brass, neck sized 3/16"
    Federal match primers
    41.0g Varget
    Nosler 168g BTHP
    Seated .030" off lands
    No crimp
    Chrono: 2550fps
     
  22. OKIE2

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    Try 168 smk's or 168 gk's touching the lands
    39.5 gr imr3031
    or
    39.5 imr 4895
    less than 50 fps different in them
    they both shoot less than 1/2 10 shot groups in my Savage bvss
    same results in 8 different rifles
     
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