.36 Connical

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Just wanted to share a few thoughts on the Buffalo 125 gr. connical round in a 1851 navy.

Loading: Was a pain!
1. The bullets would not fit under the ram, so I had to take the cylinder out and start one, then put it back in for the finnishing touch. If I had a bench loader this wouldn't have been a problem.
2. Lining up the round took some practice. I had some problems at first getting the round started. Removing some of the dry lube at the base of the bullet helped loading alot. After I got the hang of it I didn't have any problems.

Shooting: I like these bullets.
1. Accuracy for my gun was better than with a round ball. I was using 17 grains (volume) of American Pioneer Powder (I know it is weak, but it has great accuracy in my gun) with a wad, no grease. I had a 2 inch group at about 20 yards. With round balls my gun shoots around 4 inches high, and to the left about 2 inches, the connicals where dead center, but still shot high, but only by about 3 inches.
2. Gun jumps more, and is alot louder :) .

I wish I had a picture, but it started to rain on me while shooting, and then to top it off, I finally broke a hand spring on my piece, guess I wasn't supposed to shoot today. All in all, I like the bullets because I was hitting better, and they came with pistol wads to boot. Price was $8.59 for 50, but I got mine on sale for $6.00. When the weather gets better, I will shoot some more with some different loads and post them.
 
The 61 navy has a taller frame window and it's easy to seat the Buffalo Bullets. They are as accurate or close to it as ball in my 61. They hit several inches higher which kind of works out with the shoulder stock attached . On this particular gun, things hit lower with the stock attached and the heavier bullets bring my point of impact bact to zero.

I've also tried some bullets from the Dixie scissor mould. They are the same shape as the ones from the original case set moulds and weight 100 grains. They are more favorably sized and concentric than the replica brass moulded bullets. I got a 3" 25 yard group leaning across a table. They tend to hit pretty close to the sighting for round ball.

I deepened the seating stem to more or less fit the sharp bullets and promote straight seating.
 
UPDATE

Finally got out and took the 125 gr. buffalo connicals out for a real test drive. After shooting 50 of them, I can say that I won't buy them for a .36 '51 colt replica. Loading them is too much of a pain. After reading what mec said, I would use them in a 61 if I had one. Overall I really liked them (loading excluded). Accuracy was not bad, and the heavier bullet packed a little more of a punch. Price isn't the greatest, I can get 50 for 8.59. I can get 100 .375 round balls for 5.50 at the same place.

Here is my target from shooting. I went shooting with several people and I asked them not to shoot my target, but one didn't listen. I circled my shots in red using the computer. I circled them in black on the field and Xed my friends shots, but I used the computer so my shots would be easier to see.

Shots fired from 20 feet single handed using 20 grains American Pioneer Powder with wads.

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My gun shoots pretty high, I am planning on replacing the front sight some day.
 

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Shooting on your target!

Break his trigger finger, that will stop him or write him a note and stick it on his foresight!!!
Can't get my head round other people who shoot your target - first rule of shooting - IDENTIFY YOUR TARGET.

Perhaps Manyirons new conniclals will be a better load for the 51?

Duncan
 
I was pretty mad at the time because I told them that I wanted to post the results online. The only good thing was he hitting low for the most part, and my gun shoots pretty high, except for a couple that didn't load in straight.

I believe that Manyirons said that those bullets will load into a .36 cal '51 easy because of the way they are made. I would love to take some out for a test drive, but I have to wait because I am leaving for 2 weeks.
 
Dwave!

Correction! AINT mine, is tha Big Mans, I jus' be da donkey what carries tha boxes.

And had ya SAID somethin to me, woulda found a few ta send ya, I aint been exactly allergic ta sendin out samples now have I?
 
Manyirons, I know they are made by the Big Man, but everybody has been calling them your bullets, why confuse anybody now? :) It's all good, I went shooting yesterday to give the buffalo bullets a test try. Maybe I will get a few to try out, but not any time soon, I am leaving for 2 weeks to go to truck driving school and will be hitting the road. I think when I get back, I may get ahold of you at try a couple, or maybe just buy a box and really give them a run. Thanks for the sample offer!
 
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