.40 1911s

[mongoslow]

Who builds a .40 1911 that is decent and wont cost an arm and a leg. i want to try a 1911 platform but i have never been a fan of .45acp and the .40 just makes me smile .it would never replace my glock as a EDC but I would like to have one just to work at the range with.

 

[tarosean]

STI makes them, but 40 in 1911's only really exists to make majors in competition.
SA and Kimber also have compact models in 40.


None of those will be cheap though..

 

[Skylerbone]

^^^That sums it up.^^^

 

[smalls]

STI and Kimber are pretty much your options for production 1911's in .40. SA I guess makes one, but I've never seen one with the exception of the EMP.

But they aren't exactly cheap, either. You're probably looking at at least a grand.

 

[mongoslow]

I'm not giving over $1000 for a pistol that i know will have to be tweaked some to get it to run I'm wanting in the $700 range , maybe somebody will make one soon , I have a dead reliable G23 that I paid $490 OTD then put a set of trijicon night sights on for another $80 I trust it completly, but I would really like a 1911 just for the range and learning to work on the 1911 action but i dont want it enough to drop over a grand for one.

 

[Skylerbone]

Any more light you can shed on not wanting an .45ACP? I know people have their preferences but if it's meant to be a range-only, why not? Would 9mm or .38Super be as objectionable?

 

[mongoslow]

the .45 is a fine round but i just dont have the warm and fuzzies for it and really dont want one, i might look into a 9mm but like I said I just like the .40, shooting the 165 grainers it strikes a chord with me for some reason, its kinda like shooting a 5" gp100, its nothing spiecial in its own right but i know what i can do with it and it makes me smile

 

[mgmorden]

What you want doesn't exist in the $700 range. The STI Trojan is available in .40S&W but in general the .40S&W in a 1911 can be mag sensitive (and a lot of people handload the ammo to a longer OAL for reliability).

As said - the ones out there are mostly for competition. Outside of that most people are either going to be traditionalists (hence .45ACP) or want to save money on ammo, so 9mm.

 

[jeff-10]

There has always seemed to be a lot of problems with 9mm and 40 S&W 1911's. I think it's due to the overall length of the cartridges. I at one time was also researching 40's in 1911 and they all had mixed reviews. I already had a Kimber 10mm and decided to just stick with it, instead of paying a grand for something which I doubted would work correctly out of the box.

 

[rklessdriver]

Mine has run perfectly. Never a problem and pretty accurate to boot.



Good luck finding another... and IF you do it won't be cheap.
Will

 

[judgedelta]

I've got a Para in 10mm, which is a .40 sorta. If you load, you can load it hot or not. It's all steel (black stainless) and very comfortable to shoot with a modest load of 800X. Checkmate makes good stainless mags for a reasonable price.

 

[ohioshooter]

Para makes a 1911 in .40...just not in that price range.

 

[cbmax]

I have the Para Travis Tomasie Edition in .40 S&W. Got some Tripp Research mags at it runs like a champ. Got it for $1,000.

CB

 

[larryh1108]

Rock Island makes a 10mm for under $700.
Get a .40S&W barrel for a dual-headed combo.

 

[Stevie-Ray]

When I first handled a Kimber Ultra CDP, it was in .40, and even the counter guy said "...and this is a .40, WTH-these should ONLY be in .45!" Obviously another .45 fan like me. I told him that had it been in .45 ACP, I would have likely took it with me. Bought one at a gun show the next weekend.

 

[WC145]

I'm not giving over $1000 for a pistol that i know will have to be tweaked some to get it to run I'm wanting in the $700 range , maybe somebody will make one soon , I have a dead reliable G23 that I paid $490 OTD then put a set of trijicon night sights on for another $80 I trust it completly, but I would really like a 1911 just for the range and learning to work on the 1911 action but i dont want it enough to drop over a grand for one.

Wow. Clearly you haven't a clue about 1911s and just buy into the hype from the polymer gun sites. Maybe you should just stick with Glocks, no disappointment 'cause they're perfect.

 

[mongoslow]

wc145 the glock is far from perfection but it is an excellent tool for the job it does. No i know very little about the 1911, i have shot 5 that i can think of and was not impressed with the function of the llama, the Star,or whatever the other was. The Colt and the Sig were faultless while in my hands but they cost more then I have to invest in a range toy. You can take your condecendecing additude and shove it too my friend, I asked for recomendations not your additude.My intrest in the 1911 is to learn its strengths and weaknesses ,too have one of my own to take apart and put together when I want to and to shoot it and since I dont like the .45 that much I want one in 40, I may settle for a 9mm but I doubt it, Im hopeing that RIA brings out the one they had at the shot show and i can hook into 1 for under $800

 

[tarosean]

was not impressed with the function of the llama, the Star,or whatever the other was.

Neither of which are 1911's.. Kind of like calling a Hi Point a Glock.

 

[agtman]

If you want a ."40" on the 1911-platform, just get a 10mm 1911, and then get an aftermarket .40 barrel (say, from Bar-Sto) and have it fitted to the gun. Shoot two cartridges out of one gun using the same mags, although you may well find that you like the 10mm set-up better.

.40 1911s have a well-deserved rep for finicky feeding. The .40's COAL is shorter than the 10mm AUTO's, which has a nearly identical COAL to the .45acp, the design-specific cartridge for 1911s. That's why the 10mm 1911s feed fine. Guys who shoot .40 1911s in local matches long-load the bullets of their reloads (almost to 10mm length) to overcome the feeding/jamming issues. Be advised, though, that because the 10mm's recoil output is so much greater than the .45, a 1911 chambered for it benefits from certain additional items, like XP recoil & firing pin springs, EGW f.p. stop, etc.

Anyway, it's another option to consider.

You could always go the other way too, where if you find a bargain on a lightly-used .40 1911, you could shoot it a while and if you don't like it, just have a competent 'smith ream out the .40 barrel to 10mm specs.

With that mod, some XP springs, and several Delta Elite 10mm mags, you've just upgraded your gun to a much more versatile cartridge.

 

[Corpral_Agarn]

Bro, do you even 10mm?

Seriously, though the 10mm and the 1911 were pretty much made for each other. I figure if I am going to be packing a piece the size of a 1911 i may as well be shooting 10mm or 38 super.
JMHO.

 

[JTQ]

mongoslow, it is clear you didn't care for WC145 response. However, he is pretty much on the money.

Since you don't know much about 1911's, for a comparison in the Glock world, you are basically asking for a Glock in 38 Super for $400.

 

[Fremmer]

Ya know, the .38 super would be an option...

 

[rbernie]

Kimber has made runs of their 5" Custom II/Stainless II in 40S&W from time to time. I have one, and it shoots well.

 

[TRX]

> Glock in 38 Super for $400

I don't even like Glocks, but I'd be tempted to buy that...

 

[Robert101]

LarryH nailed it. If you want the 10MM caliber then get a 10MM Automatic and a spare 40 S&W barrel. What a great combo in a 1911 handgun. I did this with a Dan Wesson PM7 in 10MM.