Gryffydd
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Oh, you mean the 10mm?
9mm 1911s
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jmorris
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I have a bunch of 1911 style 9mm pistols. Springfield 9mm's are ok if the mags are good or you know how to tweak them. The STI single stacks are a step better but the 2011's are when it starts getting interesting. The top shelf is an SVI 9mm but you could have 3 of the Springfield’s for the same price, if you ever felt both you would know why. One thing neat about the SVI's are that they have a removable breach face so you can have one frame and slide chambered in many calibers. The conversion comes with the breach face, barrel, ejector, recoil spring and extractor the same slide stop and bushing is use for all, unless you have a bushing/bull barrel setup.
smoothdraw
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I use 45ACP to practice so that if ever i will be in the gunfight i'm trained and have practice with the weapon i will be using.
Those that chooses 9mm 1911 could choose it for it's softer recoil, cheaper ammo and still have the hand fit of single stack and smooth trigger of a 1911. At the end of the day shot placement is more important.
But if you practice with 9mm and carry 45 ACP 1911 for defense then maybe not the best combination. But then again people has choice and that's what's good in our country. We have freedom of choice.
BTW, 9mm 1911 is actually more expensive isn't it? Can it be the savings on the ammunition will not be much because you have to pay extra for the gun?
Those that chooses 9mm 1911 could choose it for it's softer recoil, cheaper ammo and still have the hand fit of single stack and smooth trigger of a 1911. At the end of the day shot placement is more important.
But if you practice with 9mm and carry 45 ACP 1911 for defense then maybe not the best combination. But then again people has choice and that's what's good in our country. We have freedom of choice.
BTW, 9mm 1911 is actually more expensive isn't it? Can it be the savings on the ammunition will not be much because you have to pay extra for the gun?
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smoothdraw, it all depends on how much you shoot. I used to shoot 3x a week, 200 rounds per session. It's easy to pay for a 9mm with the reduced ammo cost. I don't think one has to shoot .45 all the time to be proficient. JMO.
What's the real difference between shooting a 9mm 1911 and a .45? Yes, the recoil is a bit different, but both are reasonably mild anyway.
Ken
What's the real difference between shooting a 9mm 1911 and a .45? Yes, the recoil is a bit different, but both are reasonably mild anyway.
Ken
Quack
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if you want cost savings, buy a .22 conversion slide.
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I only have one carry 9mm 2011 the rest of the 9’s are all game guns designed for a specific purpose. That being said I wouldn’t feel under gunned with a major 9 open pistol and 170mm mag for 29 + 1 in a fight (if it were in daylight and I was well plugged). But I understand 115 + 115 = 230 and everyone knows a real gun is always a 45.
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It's not a 1911 if it's in 9mm.
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I have a 1951 Colt Commander in 9mm this is a great pistol and I would like a 2nd one to fix up for carry. Mine has a low serial number and I want to keep original.
Out of curiosity, why would you want a 9mm over a 45 for carry? You only pick up one or two rounds additional capacity. If I'm going to carry a 1911, I figure I'll stick to 45. Or am I opening the 9 vs 45 can of worms? :banghead: I don't mean to do that!
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I have a STI Trojan 9mm that's a hoot to shoot. I use it for shooting plates. 5,893 rounds of cast bullet handloads and it's been 100%. (I also have a 45 CBOB and Kimber U.C. but shoot the STI the most so my lead supply will last forever!)
Quack
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if you haven't seen my other post.
STI has a 9mm Spartan coming out.
they are taking pre-orders right now and should be shipping in the next few weeks.
http://shootersconnectionstore.com/STI-Spartan-9mm-P1589.aspx
STI has a 9mm Spartan coming out.
they are taking pre-orders right now and should be shipping in the next few weeks.
http://shootersconnectionstore.com/STI-Spartan-9mm-P1589.aspx
smoothdraw
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PAINTS, You beat me on practice. if i practice like you do my wife will divorce me. What kind of training you are doing? Anyway i'm not talking abut proficiency, i'm talking about familiarity. Mas Ayoob and those that have been there and done that suggests us to practice with the weapon that we are going to use for our self defense. It's about familiarity. You will have different tempo specially if only doing strong hand and weak hand. Will your 9mm 1911 and 45 1911 will have same feel, same trigger weight?
But if your main purpose is just to hit papers and steels then like the great Rob Leatham suggest use 9mm 1911.
But if your main purpose is just to hit papers and steels then like the great Rob Leatham suggest use 9mm 1911.
Well, I don't notice any difference between my 9mm Springfield Loaded and my 45 Kimber Custom TLE. Safety is the same, trigger is the same, weights are very close, sights are basically the same..... For self defense purposes, I don't even think my Kimber Compact would make any difference.
Oh, if I were a precise target shooter, I might be able to tell the difference, but neither of these are "target guns" like my Gold Cup, which I would not use as a carry gun.
While Ayoob, et al, have a point about practicing with what you carry, remember, police have different situations than the person carrying a firearm for self defense. We do not have to pursue a criminal, nor take shots at longer distances. Most self defense shooting are at close range and I really doubt that the difference between a 9 and a 45 would be noticeable to us in an emergency situation.
Now I would definitely see a difference between say a Sig P220 and a 1911. In fact, that's why I bought the full sized 1911, I didn't want to be switching back and forth between a DA/SA pistol and a SA pistol. But I think that there is no significant difference between various 1911's for normal self defense use.
BTW, I don't have a problem with my wife, she shoots too. I gave her 800 rounds of ammo for Christmas
When I came home with the new 1911, her comments were "oh, that's beautiful!" and she liked the trigger too We both have our CCW licenses.
BTW, I reload, so practice ammo is a little more reasonably priced.
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Oh, if I were a precise target shooter, I might be able to tell the difference, but neither of these are "target guns" like my Gold Cup, which I would not use as a carry gun.
While Ayoob, et al, have a point about practicing with what you carry, remember, police have different situations than the person carrying a firearm for self defense. We do not have to pursue a criminal, nor take shots at longer distances. Most self defense shooting are at close range and I really doubt that the difference between a 9 and a 45 would be noticeable to us in an emergency situation.
Now I would definitely see a difference between say a Sig P220 and a 1911. In fact, that's why I bought the full sized 1911, I didn't want to be switching back and forth between a DA/SA pistol and a SA pistol. But I think that there is no significant difference between various 1911's for normal self defense use.
BTW, I don't have a problem with my wife, she shoots too. I gave her 800 rounds of ammo for Christmas
When I came home with the new 1911, her comments were "oh, that's beautiful!" and she liked the trigger too We both have our CCW licenses.BTW, I reload, so practice ammo is a little more reasonably priced.
Ken
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I would buy any 9mm 1911.
Just for trick shooting and stuff.
Just for trick shooting and stuff.
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