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.410 Bore Autoloader! (concept)

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What would this abomination be under the NFA? A hand gun? An AOW?
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I believe it will just be a pistol as long as there is a rifled barrel. This is how the .410 revolvers are allowed to exist.

For God's sake please buck the trend of calling the gun something that has to do with the Justice System. Please, it's getting nauseating.

I think you've got a pretty cool idea though. I'd study the saiga shotguns for how to make a reliable auto loading shot shell slinger.
 
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Good luck my similarly geographically challenged brother. The Cali assault weapon ban specifically defines a SBS as any gun designed to fire a shotshell, that has less than an 18" barrel. Start writing your congressman to repeal the AWB... sigh maybe some day.
 
In keeping with the Judge, Governor theme?

I'd name it the Congressman.

Cause:
It doesn't work.

And you can't get rid of it.

rc
 
I just had a horrible idea, well maybe not horrible, so tell me if it is. What if you chambered it in .45-70 (downloaded), so it would be closer to the proper length of a semi short .410 shell. You could not market it as being able to fire shotshells, and everybody would think that it is just your standard .45-70 pistol. Put 1-48 rifling in it, and you get the right rifling rate for an antique cartridge. You might even get it into California, of all places. Just make sure you get the bullet button right. And you will have to be able to load it from the top, so we don't have to take the magazine out to load it (bad if law enforcement officer sees you doing that).

Sorry, just racking my brain to try to get this thing into my state.

EDIT: I just thought of something, the bullet button needs to be the right size to use a .410 shell on it. Good luck on that one.
 
It might be crazy enough to work!

However, with that long barrel and slide, all the guts of the gas system, a magazine full of .410 and the Red Dot scope and Surefire flashlight out in front of the pistol grip, it will be a mite front-heavy.

So, add something behind the grip as a counter-balance. Since it's back there you might as well put it against your shoulder. It might look something like this. :D
 
It needs to be front heavy, it will help with the recoil.

EDIT: As TennJed said, the antis would have a field day with "Executioner" I don't see why they wouldn't have a field day with "Coroner" or "Undertaker". But other than that, good ideas.
 
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I'm not a fan whatsoever when it comes to .45/410 handguns but I will offer advice on this gun. There is an AR 15 upper that uses magazines that fit into the STANAG Magwell and it feeds short .410 shells from it and it works. Why not make it based off of the AR 15? That way you could make a .223 upper for it to feed from AR 15 magazines later down the road. You could sell it with a magazine block to take the .45 ACP/.45 LC/ .454 Casull round magazines and then you remove it to put a STANAG style magazine loaded with .410 shells.
 
NOOOOOO, can't do that, no thought necessary :)

It is no fun just to take existing parts and slap them together.... This proposal deserves careful attention and thought on how to make it work. Just suggesting that we use something that has already been invented kind of chases off the excitement.:evil::D We need to throw away all conventional thought on this, and come up with our own!

On second thought, good idea....
 
Bring it up to a 12 round capacity and call it the Jury!

People at the range will never get tired of it when you empty the gun and declare "The Jury is out!" :neener:

I'll give it 3 repetitions before someone is slapped upside the head.


More seriously, we're running out of "correctional" names... "Bail Bondsman"?

Give it a good pattern at a distance (or easily replaceable barrels/chokes) for shooting Clays and you might get my money.
 
I'd study the saiga shotguns for how to make a reliable auto loading shot shell slinger.
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That was the first thing I thought of reading the original post; Saiga. The design work is already done, parts and magazines available, etc. The receiver would simply need to be manufactured as a 'pistol receiver' and the barrel rifled. I suppose that may not be as exotic as a Franken/Coonan/Eagle/AR though.

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"following the inevitable malfunction ... "hung jury!"
12 rounds of clean misses "the jury says not guilty!"

Didn't even think of those two. Good ones :D
 
You could always release a 22 caliber version of it and call it "THE STENOGRAPHER".
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That's it I can't take it anymore. I'm going to have to unsubscribe from this one. ;)
 
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