.45 ACP Rifle

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I was at bass pro shops today and I handled the ruger PCC. Sights are very clear and it felt alot more solid then i was expecting. Everything lined up perfectly when I brought it to my shoulder, I really hope a .45 Model comes out soon.
 
There's also the CX4 Storm in .45acp. This may be out of production by now, though they should still turn up time to time.
I have a CX4 Storm in 9mm and couldn't be happier with it. Unfortunately, whereas my CX4 in 9mm uses 15, 17 and 30 round magazines, I believe the same carbine in .45acp comes with an 8 round magazine. There may be other magazine available for it; I haven't researched it.

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jmorris said:
http://mechtechsys.com/

Not only do they take 1911 mags, they use the entire receiver.
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This is the only option I know of that uses 1911 mags.

A Hi-Point carbine is cheaper and can use mags that hold more rounds tho. I'd rather spend that kind of money on a new gun and a few mags then an upper that requires a lower to mount on to, but if you've got a spare frame laying around to host an upper, by all means.
 
Franky50 said:
We have forgotten to consider the H&K USC .45 ACP rifle. Once seen, it is difficult to forget :)
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I actually was jonesing for that .45acp carbine when I first read about it in the early 2000's. However, the obscene prices kept me away. Those that are still in circulation are still going for obscene premiums it seems. If the price was right, I believe I'd still buy one.
 
GarandMan94 said:
I was at bass pro shops today and I handled the ruger PCC. Sights are very clear and it felt alot more solid then i was expecting. Everything lined up perfectly when I brought it to my shoulder, I really hope a .45 Model comes out soon.
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Now that would be a great PCC for Ruger to make as they'd more than likely thread the barrel for a suppressor. The ranges that .45 would be used at, under 100 yards, it'd be a good quality PCC and the cheapest one you could buy for suppressor work with a .45.

And if a .45 were made, that would mean Ruger would have to open up the magwell a bit, which would accommodate 10mm as well.
 
The 9mm and 45 ACP have a close enough recoil impulse that the Ruger bolt might be able to be made to work, but 10mm is a whole 'nother ballgame and they already have tungsten weights installed so I'm curious if they'd be able to make it heavy enough to contain the 10 with just blow-back?
 
TTv2 said:
This is the only option I know of that uses 1911 mags.

A Hi-Point carbine is cheaper and can use mags that hold more rounds tho. I'd rather spend that kind of money on a new gun and a few mags then an upper that requires a lower to mount on to, but if you've got a spare frame laying around to host an upper, by all means.
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The Marlin Camp 45 uses 1911 mags.
 
I'd be all over the Ruger or something similar in .45ACP or 10mm. Would actually prefer something like the Scorpion with SMG type mags.

My biggest complaint about the Marlin, both now and 20yrs ago, is that it uses 1911 magazines. I guess I think a semi-auto PCC should have greater capacity than a levergun, not less.
 
I'm really pinning my hopes on Ruger releasing a PCC in .45 ACP. Ruger and Glock magwells in the box and a 1911 magwell available for order.

I really think 10mm is a pipe dream, however Highpoint has come out with a 10mm blowback carbine so it can be done.
 
RecoilRob said:
The 9mm and 45 ACP have a close enough recoil impulse that the Ruger bolt might be able to be made to work, but 10mm is a whole 'nother ballgame and they already have tungsten weights installed so I'm curious if they'd be able to make it heavy enough to contain the 10 with just blow-back?
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Would have to make it a delayed blowback.
 
You, of course, CAN make a blow-back 10mm.....I'm just wondering if there is room within the Ruger Carbine for enough bolt mass to make it work? The Mechtech is just a tube so adding bolt mass a simple thing, but within the Ruger receiver it might be tricky and require a longer or taller space to get more in there. I guess they could also add hammer mass and spring to the equation but don't have a good feel for what would be needed to contain the 10mm vs 9mm. Anybody have a HighPoint 10mm carbine to compare bolts with the 9mm?

Years ago I saw a Semi Thompson in 10mm and IIRC it had some hellacious springs in it but unsure about the bolt mass compared to the normal 45's.
 
i would like a pcc in 10mm, might be nice for hunting and defence. the ruger pcc is one of few guns for use new yorkers. i like the rifle style stock and the take down barrels. but the ruger would most likely need some kind of buffer, i have read the 9mm bolt is just heavy anuff. i hope ruger will expand to a bigger action but that changes the rifle some.
 
i have 2 type 99 barreled actions laying around, one i was thinking of making a 45 acp even just a singe shot would be fun. i can get a barrel blank cheap and tread it. or if i get a 44 barrel to make a 44 auto mag super easy and cheap to make brass.
 
GarandMan94

This may not be what you're looking for but you might want to take a look at Valkyrie Arms, Ltd. Check out their M3A1 Grease Gun and their DeLisle Commando Carbine, both in .45ACP.
 
I bet Ruger is working on a 45acp PCCarbine right now.? The Amaerican pistols are in 45acp. The way the 9mm PCC's are selling it should be huge for Ruger?
 
Hmmm I remember there being an AR with a traditional stock for ban states... Ares SCR. If it uses traditional AR components if should be able to convert to 45ACP easily. (?)
 
rabid wombat said:
Why not go lever action? Ranger Point does the conversions - not cheap, but classic.
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Ranger Point conversions are awesome, but I would only use flat-nose bullets in those, which in practical terms pretty much means hard-cast semi-wadcutters and JHP ammunition.
 
I see that every other option was already listed, from HiPoint to H&K USC. But I still have one more! And it's not Kriss or Vector Uzi! Behold, the H&R Model 60:

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P.S. Personally, I don't live in a ban state, and I don't have any inhibitions about AR-style rifles, so my choice would be CMMG Guard. I'm very impressed by its clever delayed blowback mechanism, that allows for a much lighter gun that is still durable and reliable. It also has good features, such as last round hold-open.
 
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