45 ACP weirdness

[IP1911]

No problems,

I have tried from 1.200 all the way to 1.68 same failure rate on ""the Bullets"" as far as seating goes. I was using a seat/crimp die and actually had made 200rounds and put them down range no malfunctions. Only when I started using ""the bullets"" did I start having these issues. I then went out and purchased the LFCD and the same thing was happing.

The manufactures bullet that runs perfect in my gun is 1.56.

I just got back from the range on the ones I made with the hornady and at 1.56 they all went down range no malfunctions.

Just so everyone knows I am not arguing I am just stating what I have tried and tested. I am new to this and would love to find a fix so I don't have to scrap the bullets.


Thanks for everyone's help so far

Confused
Tony

 

[2bfree]

Did you measure the diameter of the bullets ? Did you even try to find the max oal for that bullet ? Who knows, you might need an oal of 1.190 for that bullet. You must have a preconceived idea what the problem is and not paying any heed to what others have suggested in this thread. You poseted a number of times that you have even increased the crimp when it is already to much.

 

[IP1911]

You must have a preconceived idea what the problem is and not paying any heed to what others have suggested in this thread.

^^Not at all I have tried everything that has been suggested except this

"Take an unsized case and push a bullet in enough to get it started. Push that in your barrel until the case mouth seats. Take it out and measure the oal, that will be your max oal"

If I did miss something it was intentional and I am sorry.
I am having a hard time trying to get a bullet in to an un-sized case though.

you only quoted half my statement
I started with it backed out and not crimping and progressed a little at a time until it would seat and it never did.

I can sure try 1.19 and I did measure the bullets
RMR Height .632 - .639 Circumference at base .447 - .449
Hornady .636 - .637 .447

 

[Mad Chemist]

We have already told you what you need to do. 1) Seat deeper. 2) Only apply enough crimp to remove the belling at the case mouth.


You are reloading for a semi auto pistol, not a revolver. The .45acp (and most other semi auto caliber pistols) should headspace on the case mouth. It should have little to no visible crimp. Case neck tension is what holds the bullet in place.

Seat some of the RMR bullets at <1.25" with only enough crimp to remove the bell. See what happens.

 

[IP1911]

I will seat it a little at a time on the press as I can not push the bullet in

 

[IP1911]

I have guys I have seated to 1.20 still the same thing I sneak up on the crimp.
I start with it backed out and turn it in a very little at a time at no point during this does it seat.

 

[2bfree]

I started with it backed out and not crimping and progressed a little at a time until it would seat and it never did.

Well, if the bullet was hitting the lands, it wouldn't:banghead:

 

[IP1911]

The point being you said I was crimping to much and I just stated that in the end the crimp was to much but I hit every point in between no crimp and to much crimp.

If there is a different way to find out how much crimp one needs please fill me in as I seem to not be getting what you are trying to say. I am having no issues on Hornady or Remington.

I have tried different crimps from very light to light to more than light and so and so on. I have tried all of these with different COAL from 1.20 .168.

I am currently try to get a bullet into an un-sized case this is proving to be harder then it sounds, any tips on this?

Again I am more than happy to measure, try, test anything.

 

[Conservidave]

IP1911, its unfortunate that you have this much trouble with your reloads but it sounds like you're well on your way to making some great ammo. Keep us posted with range reports.

 

[IP1911]

Thanks Dave,
I really do appreciate everyone's time and help.

I decided to try a small run again with the RMR bullet. I re-did the Seating die and the crimping die. I did this just like the other times same way, well I thought??? All 20 seated fine this time, not sure what changed or what I missed if anything last few times I set the dies up for the RMR's.

I will see how the 20 shoot and feed then run a batch of a 100.

Again thank you all I did learn a lot from this thread.

P.S.

I still cannot get the dang bullet in the un-sized case :banghead:

Tony

 

[2bfree]

It has been said, not just by me but others. .471 works with most.

I have tried different crimps from very light to light to more than light and so and so on. I have tried all of these with different COAL from 1.20 .168.

And if 1.20 is to long, of course it won't seat !
As far as getting the bullet to start in an unsized case, Try different cases. It can be done.

The point being you said I was crimping to much and I just stated that in the end the crimp was to much but I hit every point in between no crimp and to much crimp.

You said, even after you had already been told that that .468 was to small, that you went ahead and crimped even more:banghead:
really, your just not listining.