460 S&W- Where can I shoot one in NW WA?

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As the title states, I'm looking to shoot a 460 S&W before buying one. I have weak wrists from a rugby neck injury that caused me to have multiple discs fused and lose about 60% strength in my wrists and want to make sure it won't mess me up before I order one. Any sort of set up is fine, I only need to shoot less than 5 rounds and don't care about chronographs/targets/etc. I decided this was the perfect bear defense gun (for me, since I'll be able to "train" with it on 45LC) for packing while back country fishing/bowhunting/hiking but I want to make sure it will actually work for me.
 
Hmmmm. I’ll weigh in a opinion (and that’s all it is) to your unique situation.

If you’re dead set on a revolver buy a Ruger Blackhawk.45 Colt or a Super Blackhawk in .44 Mag with a 4 5/8” or a 5.5” barrel. Shoot lead bullet “cowboy” loads in either one (.45 Colt or .44 Special) and then load a Buffalo Bore hard cast load for your travels in the woods.

You list far, far too many issues to even think you’ll be getting a huge, heavy X frame out of a holster and into position to shoot the .460, much less handle the recoil from a shot, if your experience level is low and you’re limited by wrists that are at 60% of their strength due to injury. I’ve shot them a few times and the .460 XVR is no pushover even when ported/muzzle braked.

Better still for your needs is a 10mm Glock. The long slide version has plenty of barrel for max velocity, it carries flat and gets into action much faster than the SA Rugers or DA S&W and with 200 gr Buffalo Bore hard casts it’ll shoot very effectively. The shorter standard size snd compact versions carry a bit better and aren’t much more difficult to shoot with heavy loads if the room is limited on your belt or chest.

I have several big bore revolvers in .454 Casull, .45 Colt, 44 Mag and .41 Mag and can’t fathom shooting any of them with 60% of my wrist strength.

Just a suggestion…good luck with your search.

Stay safe.
 
I have done similar types of outdoor activity in the Cascades and Olympics, and I make do with a steel Magnum J frame, like the 3 inch M60. Currently, I carry the Buffalo Bore 158 gr Outdoorsman Load, but the heavier 180 gr bear killers are possible. I would need to take pain pills afterward; my wrists are at least 40% gone.
If I wanted heavier protection, I would carry a S&W M69. Anything from heavy 44 SPL loads to full MGN. This is a 5 shot 686 size revolver, and as much gun as I would carry out back, unless handgun hunting.
I'am no expert on the X frames, but I think the 460 is for long distance hunting. The 500 would be a better choice for very dangerous animals. More knock um down power!

73,
Rick
 
Hmmmm. I’ll weigh in a opinion (and that’s all it is) to your unique situation.

If you’re dead set on a revolver buy a Ruger Blackhawk.45 Colt or a Super Blackhawk in .44 Mag with a 4 5/8” or a 5.5” barrel. Shoot lead bullet “cowboy” loads in either one (.45 Colt or .44 Special) and then load a Buffalo Bore hard cast load for your travels in the woods.

You list far, far too many issues to even think you’ll be getting a huge, heavy X frame out of a holster and into position to shoot the .460, much less handle the recoil from a shot, if your experience level is low and you’re limited by wrists that are at 60% of their strength due to injury. I’ve shot them a few times and the .460 XVR is no pushover even when ported/muzzle braked.

Better still for your needs is a 10mm Glock. The long slide version has plenty of barrel for max velocity, it carries flat and gets into action much faster than the SA Rugers or DA S&W and with 200 gr Buffalo Bore hard casts it’ll shoot very effectively. The shorter standard size snd compact versions carry a bit better and aren’t much more difficult to shoot with heavy loads if the room is limited on your belt or chest.

I have several big bore revolvers in .454 Casull, .45 Colt, 44 Mag and .41 Mag and can’t fathom shooting any of them with 60% of my wrist strength.

Just a suggestion…good luck with your search.

Stay safe.

Thanks- That's why I want to try and shoot one. I'm still very young (early 30s), so even though I lost (according to the physio) 60% I still have pretty decent strength in them. I can shoot all my calibers (380, 9, 38/357, 45 acp) with zero issue. I plan on wearing it in a cross chest holster. If it ends up being too much I'll start stepping down.
 
If you don't reload, I would stick with something else. Seems the chances of a grizzly attack are slim to none for you. For Blackies, your .357 would probably work. As for recoil, depending on the model, can be a moot point when compared to a snubby .44 or a "Ruger only" load in a .45 Colt. You cannot really "train" with .45 Colt as POI will be much different than with regular legitimate .460 ammo. If you want to train with .45 Colt, just get a .45 Colt.
 
Yay!!! I’ve really been looking forward to the next “What Gun for Bears” thread just so that I could use the following quote I gleaned from a “Carrying a Gun for Self Defense” thread: “It’s not the odds, it’s the stakes.”;)
You see, before old age and infirmities set in, my wife and I logged hundreds of miles backpacking in the Idaho and Wyoming wildernesses - where there really are grizzlies, or so we’ve been told (we never actually saw any grizzlies except from the road while driving through Yellowstone and Glazier national parks). Regardless, at one time or another while backpacking, I’ve carried everything from a heavily loaded .357 Magnum to a heavily loaded .45 Colt, finally settling on a heavily loaded Taurus .41 Magnum. And both my wife and I carried large canisters of bear spray.
It didn’t make any difference to us that we’d never seen a grizzly while we were backpacking, the few black bears we saw were a long ways off, we heard wolves a few times while backpacking, but never actually saw one, we’ve seen more cougars in the valley where we live than we ever saw on backpacking trips, and we never had a problem with the moose we encountered - not even the cows with calves. We (I) carried a powerful (for a handgun) revolver, and we both carried bear spray, because after all, “It’s not the odds, it’s the stakes.”:D
BTW, I always felt more ill-at-ease at the trailheads than I ever did 20 miles into the wilderness. Occasionally I spotted what I thought might have been 2-legged predators at trailheads. But I’ve never seen any of those types of predators more than a few minutes hike from the road.
 
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I feel this has kind of devolved into a "this is the gun you should get," "that's too much," "bullets are hard to find," which is all fantastic dialogue and definitely not the first (or second, or millionth) post regarding that. I've personally seen grizzlies (while elbow deep in elk guts), seen wolves (while hunting white tail), shot multiple black bear. I'm fully aware of all the data and personal accounts of bear attacks with everything from 380 snub noses to 500 S&W. Personally, I want a 460... So as to the question of the post, does anyone know where I can shoot one in the PNW to make sure that it's a comfortable gun for me to reliably shoot as a side arm while in the woods?
 
I feel this has kind of devolved into a "this is the gun you should get," "that's too much," "bullets are hard to find," which is all fantastic dialogue and definitely not the first (or second, or millionth) post regarding that.Personally, I want a 460... So as to the question of the post, does anyone know where I can shoot one in the PNW to make sure that it's a comfortable gun for me to reliably shoot as a side arm while in the woods?

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were asking advice about a gun you know nuttin' about. Didn't realize you were only asking for someone to let you shoot theirs or maybe rent one for 5 rounds.
 
Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were asking advice about a gun you know nuttin' about. Didn't realize you were only asking for someone to let you shoot theirs or maybe rent one for 5 rounds.
No stress- I know these threads pop up all the time with people asking about the guns and opinions. And it's all valid info, I just didn't want my original request to get lost in the discussion.
 
Having Carried a 44 mag in a Kodiak galco chest rug, its not a quick draw setup. I also feel tge straps are not compatible with a large 5 day backpack on your back, the arm straps and cross connect will interfere.

I like a safariland drop leg holster and a 10mm for outdoors these days, but if I have my torso free I do have a kodiak holster as I said and I carry a scoped 7.5" super redhawk in it. I also have a 7.5" super blackhawk 44 and a 6" gp100 357 I occasionally carry in belt holsters.

I feel 44 is enough for a brown or black, as is 10mm. For the charging grizzly I'd want 454 or 460 too but I just don't fear that in WA.
 
You may look into gun shops with ranges that RENT guns.

We have several around OKC and you can rent almost anything.

On a side note: my buddy had been interested in a .460 S&W since it's introduction.

One Thursday morning, perusing Armslist, he sees a S&W .460, 6", with cross-chest holster and 49 rounds of ammo.

He makes contact, completes the deal on Friday.

Saturday morning, trip to the range.

Monday morning, listed on Armslist, S&W .460 6", with cross-chest holster and 48 rounds of ammo.


IF you are set on the S&W (awesome revolver), practice with .45C and carry with .454Casull.
A situation arises, adrenaline will offset the recoil. Having shot heavy loads beforehand, you MIGHT hesitate or flinch and the results turn out not so good.

The .460 is BRUTAL.

A Ruger SuperBlackhawk in .45C can be loaded to very impressive numbers. Buffalo Bore has heavy loaded factory shells.
SuperRedhawk is available, if you want double action.
 
You may look into gun shops with ranges that RENT guns.

We have several around OKC and you can rent almost anything.

On a side note: my buddy had been interested in a .460 S&W since it's introduction.

One Thursday morning, perusing Armslist, he sees a S&W .460, 6", with cross-chest holster and 49 rounds of ammo.

He makes contact, completes the deal on Friday.

Saturday morning, trip to the range.

Monday morning, listed on Armslist, S&W .460 6", with cross-chest holster and 48 rounds of ammo.


IF you are set on the S&W (awesome revolver), practice with .45C and carry with .454Casull.
A situation arises, adrenaline will offset the recoil. Having shot heavy loads beforehand, you MIGHT hesitate or flinch and the results turn out not so good.

The .460 is BRUTAL.

A Ruger SuperBlackhawk in .45C can be loaded to very impressive numbers. Buffalo Bore has heavy loaded factory shells.
SuperRedhawk is available, if you want double action.
Yep, that's kind of also what I was hoping is that someone in the NW WA area would say "Oh check out XYZ range, they have a 460 you can rent." as I'm not aware of anything close by that has one available to rent.
 
Having lived, fished, and hunted in Western Washington for nearly 15 years before moving to CO in 2003, I can tell you that any Bears you meet will be Black Bears that don't require a .460 Mag load. This is also true for Cougars, which you will almost certainly not see prior to their attack if you are so unfortunate as to encounter one. Accordingly, I would not hesitate to buy a .460 S&W if you want one but, as you suggest, do almost all your shooting with .45 Colt or even .454 Casull to spare your neck and wrists. I have fired the .460 S&W Magnum and the .500 S&W Magnum; I find both unpleasant to shoot. Stout .45 Colt loads can dispatch any two- or four-legged creatures that you encounter in NW WA...I used to carry a stainless Ruger Vaquero in .45 Colt under my waders while fly fishing and used to hunt with either a .30-06 or 7mm RM rifle which I would have trusted more than a revolver of any caliber against hairy hostiles. YMMV.

I will also note that I have had extensive cervical spine damage (laminectomy of C1 and C2 with some sequelae) and happily sold my .375 H&H Mag and .300 WSM rifles with the complete approval of both my neurosurgeon and ophthalmologist. I understand your issues and wish you well.

Harry
 
It may not be any easier than finding a 460 to shoot, but find a gun store that has one to fondle for a few minutes. That might make up your mind. They are a big revolver.

I found a 460 XVR (8-3/8" barrel) on sale a number years ago that I could no pass up.

I joke that it is so big, it is a "crew served" revolver.

The long barreled XVR is not too bad to shoot from my standpoint. I'd hate to shoot one of the short barrel versions.
 
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Have you had any improvement after the nerve damage, or is there any chance of improvement through therapy or anything?
 
Have you had any improvement after the nerve damage, or is there any chance of improvement through therapy or anything?
Yes, definitely some improvement, and it theoretically could come back to 100% but they doubt that will ever be the case. The biggest issue is thumb and grip strength
 
If you cannot find a range to rent one. Look up gun forums for your state area. And ask some of those folks. Post an add on Craigslist maybe? Hang around outdoor ranges. Hunting season is close so folks will be sighting something in. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
 
A lot of indoor ranges don't allow heavier than 44 MGN. Probably what the backstops are designed for. Besides, indoors, in a mainly concrete structure, a heavier gun would likely defeat the best hearing protection. I use double protection, and even so, 357 MGN is very loud.

73,
Rick
 
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