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5.56 primers

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by HOLY DIVER, Mar 23, 2009.

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  1. HOLY DIVER

    HOLY DIVER Member

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    getting ready to load about 5000 rds for a friend
    since i'm loading this many i wanna make sure i get it right
    i'll either be using imr4320 around 24.3 gr
    or h335 at 24.3 gr
    do i need to use small rifle magnum primers?
    or will reg ones work fine
    oh i will be using 55grfmj bullets
     
  2. ArchAngelCD

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    According to the Hodgdon load data site they used a Winchester SR primer, not a Magnum primer when they tested their .223 loads with a 55gr bullet.

    Besides that, both those powders aren't considered hard to ignite and with a charge that small a Magnum primer wouldn't be necessary. Also, I would use H335 if it were my ammo. (are you really going to reload for someone else?)
     
  3. kestak

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    Greetings,

    I already asked this question and I did not get an answer.

    Is H335 the powder used to load our military 223?

    Thank you
     
  4. loadedround

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    I second the H335 with the 55gr bullet and SR primers. Excellent load for 1/9 barrel. Wouldn't use it in a Colt 1/7 twist barrel though. It usually will not stabilize and bullets will "pattern" and not group. I found this out the hard way after selling a LNIB Colt A2 sporter that wouldn't shoot...my error. :uhoh:
     
  5. drumz2129

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    BL-C(2) is what is used in the military 5.56 if i am not mistaken.
     
  6. BADUNAME27

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    If this is for an AR/M4 then I suggest a 7 1/2 rem small rifle primer.

    The cups are tough and you want this since the firing pin is able to move when the bolt goes into battery. No slam fires this way. It's also a good thing because they are very consistent and if you run the loads hot it'll tolerate them better.

    Good luck.

    Chad
     
  7. rcmodel

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    I doubt if anyone knows for sure what powder they are using right now for M-885 62 grain GI ammo.

    WW-748 and H-335 were both once developed & used for the M-193, 55 grain load.


    The Winchester WSR primer can be considered to be a Magnum primer, as Winchester only makes on Sm Rifle primer to cover all the bases.

    Another great choice is the CCI #41 military primer.
    http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/primers/primers_prod.aspx?id=30

    However, with the present primer shortage, you may have to use whatever you can find.


    BL-C(2) powder was used for the 7.62 NATO round.

    rc
     
  8. ArchAngelCD

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    Yes it was....

    As for the question about H335 and the 5.56/.223 round, yes, H335 was the originally powder used for the 5.56 NATO round.
     
  9. drumz2129

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    Thats good to know. Someone at the place i get my reloading supplies told me BL-C(2) was used in the 5.56, unless I understood him wrong. I use Varget, BL-C(2) and H335 in my 5.56 rounds... Sometimes it boils down to what is avaliable at the time.
     
  10. HOLY DIVER

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    ANGEL yea i'm loading them for a friend lol
    so a reg small rifle primer will work just fine from what u guys said lol i think
     
  11. robfromsc

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    you are aware that 25gn of h335 is max?
     
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    OK, I'll bring up one obvious question.....If you are charging or your friend is buying the stuff, YOU loading 5000 for a friend constitutes ammunition manufacturing, which, without a federal permit is strictly a major NO-NO and will get you several years in a small room with bars on the doors and windows

    not something I would venture into :what:
     
  13. freonr22

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    maybe he meant he was donating the materials so he can gain experience
     
  14. RustyFN

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    But he will get free meals, a place to sleep and make a lot of new friends.:D

    Rusty
     
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    So my father in law should go to prison for reloading for me?
     
  16. RustyFN

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    If he is getting anything from you in trade or money then acording to how the law is written, yes. Even if he is ending up with some extra brass using some of it or your components to load for himself. Does that mean he will get caught, probably not. If somebody is loading for a friend and their gun blows up because the person made a mistake loading and they get hurt bad, then I would say there is a very good chance.
    Rusty
     
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    Actually a lot of powders have been used to load the 7.62 ammo for Military use.
    IMR4895, IMR4064, and others....
     
  18. HOLY DIVER

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    ask something about primers and now i'm going to jail.....lol....letts say i'm going to lett him use all my stuff and help him through the process
     
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    Any small rifle primers will work great.
     
  20. RustyFN

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    Everybody is trying to help you out with some friendly advice. If you want to reload for someone else and take the chance that's up to you, we aren't going to make you do anything.
    Rusty
     
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    See how long he is a friend IF something bad happens while he's firing those rounds. Even if it's not your fault. All he has to do is squawk to a lawyer, you'll spend the rest of your life paying for it!

    Just make sure you take a jar of Vaseline along!:evil:
     
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    Its fairly obvioushe/they don't want to listen to you'all. If and thats IF, nothing happens all well and good, if it does it will be But, but, but Judge I didn't mean to screw up.

    It only takes once.
     
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