6.5 mm thoughts, opinions, impressions

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Just want to ask the range of shooters here what are their thoughts, opinions and impressions about 6.5 mm cartridge offerings.

If you use one, which cartridge and rifle?

If you use one, what is your favorite bullet and for what use?

If you don't, would you or do you have reason why not?

Thanks for your thoughts and opinions.
 
6.5x55 in a sporterized M94 Swede.

I use the 140 gr Nosler partition for hunting, and Speer 140 gr spitzers for target.
 
6.5jap in a sporterized Ty 38 Arisaka with a VXII 3-9x Leupold on it.

Favorite bullet, not sure as I haven't started loading for it yet. I like the alaska soft point 156gr that Norma loads and hopefully will get the chance to take some deer hunting soon.

Nice ballistics in a quiet, light recoiling gun, what's not to like?
 
I took a doe last weekend with my 6.5 x 55 semi custom Swedish Mauser.
I shoot 140 grain Remington Cre Lokt. I feel yhis is a great cartridge for whitetail deer.

Jim Hall
 
I shoot the 6.5 X 55 Swedish Mauser out of an M38 Swedish Mauser. For hunting deer size game, I use a 120 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip loaded on top of Norma brass. This rifle has brought done several moose with the 139 grain factory ammo from Norma. I find increased accuracy with the Norma brass over the North American brass, she will shoot 3/4" groups with each load at 100 yards. If I was right handed, which I am not, I would look at the Tikka traget rifle that has just come out in 6.5 X 55. This round is quite accurate and would work well in a target rigle.
 
I used a 6.5x55 Swede carbine in 60's and 70's and its a real good cartridge. Since the 80's the wifey has a 6.5 x.223 which weighs little, recoils little and shoots flat to 300 yards(as far as you'd hunt!) and wallops anything down from elk real fine with 125 Grain Nosler Partitions at a resonable2650fps or so.:)
 
Don't know what you are into and whether or not this will help, but I'll throw it out anyways. I have a M38 Swedish Mauser (shoots 6.5x55 Swede) and like shooting the Swedish surplus ammo out of it. I like milsurp rifles and own a couple, but no Mausers, so I figured it would be nice to get one of the Mauser brothers' designs. Also, I had heard good things about the 6.5x55 round, that it was a naturally accurate cartridge that had good poop and very little recoil. Sounded perfect for me, since I usually stop at about 50 rounds with a .30 cal and above. I could shoot the Swede all day long, whereas with the more common 8mm Mausers, I'd tire more quickly. Well, to make a long story short, I got my Swedish Mauser and have mainly gone target shooting with it (300 yards is the farthest I have shot so far) since I don't hunt. It lived up to expectations and sometime next year I will get the aforementioned Tikka Target rifle in 6.5x55 so I can see what I can do with a scoped rifle :) . HTH.
 
Thanks for all your thoughts, the 6.5x55 does seem to have quite a following.

1. How do y'all feel about the Nosler 100 grain Partition and Ballistic Tip for Deer and other medium game?

2. A couple of you mentioned the 120 grain Ballistic Tip and the 125 grain Partition, how do others feel about these medium weight 6.5 bullets for hunting?
 
The best bullet for deer is the 140 because of it's high sectional density and ballistic coefficient. It will hold it's velocity at long range and still have good penetration. The lighter bullets just don't have the performance.It does it all with little recoil or muzzle blast. Mine is a custom M98 and has been used for many years and many deer. As for a rifle I give serious thought to a Sako. The only other catridge to consider would be the 6.5x284 if you're looking for greater range.
 
I like my 6.5x.308 aka .260 Rem. As far as ballistics, there is little difference between it and a 6.5x55 swede. The .260 is a higher pressure round and must be built on a stronger action.

I used the 129 gr Hornady SST on 2 deer this year. The buck went about 15 yards the doe dropped like she was hit by lightning
 
6.5 up the wazoo at my house...

6.5x53R Dutch
6.5x55 Swedish Mauser
6.5-06 Interdiction
6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum barrel burner project
6.5 PPC AR-15 project

I'm one of the biggest fans of the 120gr Nosler Ballistic Tip, as pushed to 3200fps from my 6.5-06. Can't wait to get some of those 123gr Lapua Scenars, the BC is that much more impressive over the Noslers!
 
TX65, if you are using the 6.5 for hunting deer-sized critters, I would eschew the lighter bullets. May be fantastic on varmits--groundhogs, coyotes, feral dogs, what have you.

However, if you're after those Tejas deer, may work down there as they are a lot smaller. I know the light caliber/light bullet is popular there, but IME leads to too many blood chases and losses. Placement, I know, I know. Of course, here, we usually wack them with a 12 ga. slug.:D

Of course, just my $.02.
 
hmmm

I would vote for the 6.5x284 as a great long range round for deer sized game. It's accuracy is just uncanny. They do burn barrels quicker than the Swede, but as far as accuracy, I feel that the 6.5x284 is the best.
 
Standard 6.5 rounds (with reasonable chance of buying ammo at WalMart) - probably none of them. Most of your local gun boutiques will carry 6.5X55 and possibly .260, however. (I'm sure there are exceptions.)

The well-respected gun writer, John Barsness, thinks highly of his Ruger M77 MkII 6.5X55. It has, he writes, a smooth bore and is exceptionally accurate. Ruger will no longer be carrying this loading, however, so you're on borrowed time for a new one of these. You can find many different makers, from Win M70 Feathrweight, to Sako, to CZ. It's really a popular round, particularly in Europe. If having factory loadings available forever is of interest to you, this is likely the round.

The .260 Remington, as mentioned before, is the .308 case necked down to 6.5, and is a fine round, as are all of the .308 family. It's not as wide-spread as the 6.5X55, and you therefore run a slight risk of having a cartridge that may someday be an orphan. Remington chambers for it, as I think Ruger does also. If you're looking for a step up from that, so does Kimber in its 84M. I've read one-hole stories about that rifle.

For whatever reason, it seems that the 6.5 has a couple of characteristics. First, they've never been popular in the US. Second, they are phenomenally accurate. Also, some of the bigger loadings (.264 Win Mag comes to mind) are not low-recoil, but the two I've mentoioned have a good reputation for low kick combined with all of the power anyone will ever need for deer-sized game.

Jaywalker
 
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Oleg Volk:
What about the Presidential Choice, Carcano 6.5? Does anyone use those anymore?
Depending upon who you ask, maybe no one ever used it.

Hmm. That's the first joke I ever made about that.

Jaywalker
 
Oleg, the 6.5 Carcano had a few "issues".

The Italians used gain-twist rifling on a good portion of their 6.5 Carcano issue guns. As long as the final rifling twist was matched to the bullet weight and length, all was good. Sporterized Carcanos often had several inches of their barrels cut off, and those were crucial inches with respect to that gain-twist rifling. So the guns, understandably, shot poorly after being brought home in duffle bags and carried afield in search of venison and the occasional U.S. president. While it's use as a varmint round for the latter is now a matter of record, it didn't endear itself as a popular sporting caliber otherwise.

The 6.5 Carcano also showed up, as issued, with a slightly oversized bore, instead of being .264", it often ran as large as .268 - .270". Call it poor QC, call it being unique for the sake of being unique, but folks shooting .264" bullets weren't getting good accuracy out of their Carcano rifles. BTW, there's a company called Mo-Loc, who make oversized .268" bullets specifically for these rifles.

Somebody in the annals of gunrag history let it be known that the Carcano action, particularly the striker retention mechanism, was poorly designed and an accident waiting to happen, potentially driving the striker into the shooter's face at the wrong moment. This in spite of the fact that the Carcano was derived from the Mannlicher turnbolt action, even the 6.5x52 Carcano cartridge was a kissing cousin to the famous 6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schonauer round as supposedly carried by Karamojo Bell. This reputation as a handgrenade-in-waiting didn't help the gun and cartridge in popularity, either.

As an aside, a friend bought a $39.95 Carcano from Springfield Sporters, chambered in 8x57 Mauser, a last-ditch Carcano from WWII. I loaded up some 170gr blue-pill proof loads, using lots of pistol powder, for the experiment.

Once we followed the trigger string back to the remains of the rifle, it was obvious the striker assembly had stayed right where it was supposed to, inside the bolt, right where it was before the proof load. The bolt, on the other hand, had come aft a wee bit - because the forward receiver ring had shattered. ;)

The 6.5x52 Carcano is actually a quite decent and efficient round, not too different from the 6.5x54 Mannlicher Carcano. It does have an odd case head size for most bolt-action rifles, although it's close enough to the 7.62x39's case head size to be useful for custom bolt guns based on the latter. The 6.5x52 Carcano, 6.5x50 Arisaka, 6.5x53R Dutch Mannlicher, and 6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schonauer simply suffer from obscurity, and some measure of notoriety. :(
 
Since El Tejon and Gewehr has chimed up already most anything I can add will be redundant, but yeah, the 6.5x55 Swede is the cat's jewels. Got 3 Swedes; they all like 140 grain Noslers for almost anything you want to do with it.

Ask him to show another picture of his Ljungmann.

Show-off :D

Regards,
Rabbit.
 
My opinion is that I'm going to get me a nice Cooper rifle in 6.5 x 284 - after I buy a house to hold a larger vault. Might take a while.

Reason for that chambering is for long range accuracy. Reason for Cooper is a) the firm is highly regarded by local THR members, b) they can make it with pretty wood, c) excellent value!

Oh yeah, would go for the 26" barrel. Maybe fluted?

Oh, wait... I can stack rifles....
 
If you don't, would you or do you have reason why not?
I don't have one, but I want one for two reasons:
First, I don't have one :rolleyes:
Second, from all I've read, the 6.5 mm bullets offer great game taking power with moderate recoil.
I don't know if I want 6.5 x55 Swede or .260 Rem as of yet.
JohnMc
 
Everyone is providing a lot of good feedback. It definitely seems that 6.5 mm is more popular then the gun magazines would let on.

Of the readily available 6.5 cartridges, 6.5x55 and 260 Remington appear to have a loyal following and the 6.5-284 is the long range round of choice.

For current 6.5 users, I wanted to gauge your thoughts and impressions about the upcoming or rumored release of some new 6.5 cartridges

1. The 6.5 Grendel. For those unfamilar with the 6.5 Grendel, it is an improved version of the 6.5 PPC and is being released in February. Initial release will be in the AR15 in complete rifles and upper assemblies. A hunting load of a Nosler 120 Ballistic Tip or Nosler 125 grain Partition at 2650 fps from a 24 inch barrel would achievable. How does an AR15 appeal to you or would your interest be for a bolt action in this cartridge?

2. The 6.5 WSSM. Only a rumor that I have heard from a few sources. Appears that case capacity would be less then the 6.5 - 284 and similar to the 6.5 x 55 and 260 Remington so it would not be a barrel burner. Obviousally, would be a bolt action offering.
 
News flash! Remington is 'reintroducing' the 6.5 Remington magnum on the old .350 mag case , it will be in the new 673 carbine and they wiill start making 6.5 ammo with 120 corelokt II bullet.:)
 
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