7.62x25mm Tokarev good for self defense?

[dodging230grainers]

Just wondering what you guys thought about the 7.62x25mm round for self defense. 85 grains @1650 fps IIRC. Would it create a large wound channel do to extremely high velocity? It would seem to be better than 357 SIG at penetrating materials like cars and kevlar vests. Have there been any gelatin tests done on the ole' commie round?

 

[MrTuffPaws]

The info that I have seen leads me to believe that you would not get back up after getting hit with you. They have about as much energy hitting as a 10mm. The problem is that any thing behind yoour target would get hit too.

 

[KriegHund]

Do they sell those in HP?

 

[Nicky Santoro]

FNM
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[nero45acp]

It's strange how the 7.62x25mm Tokarev (85gr @ 1650fps) would be lauded for it's effectiveness by some, and yet others denegrate the .30 carbine cartridge that pushes a 110gr bullet at over 1900fps.


nero

 

[Reed1911]

We load the 7.62x25 in 60g HP, 71g FMJ, 85g HP and SP, 90g HP, 93g SP, 100g SJSP, and 110g FMJ and SP. The 60g XTP and GDHP are both excellent for SD and low occurances of overpenetration.

 

[jobu07]

It's strange how the 7.62x25mm Tokarev (85gr @ 1650fps) would be lauded for it's effectiveness by some, and yet others denegrate the .30 carbine cartridge that pushes a 110gr bullet at over 1900fps.

+1

 

[KriegHund]

90 gr HP? Heavier than i would think!
That seems like it would work nicely.
Another +1 to the .30 remark.

 

[eab]

.30 carbine and 7.62 Tok are two different things.... .30 carbine is messured against other rifles. As a true rifle round it is a weak caliber for a rifel. As a pistol replacement, self defense round it is just fine. The 7.62 Tok is a pistol cailber, and is thus messured against other pistols.

 

[Reed1911]

Compared to other rifle rounds, it is on the lower side of the of the power spectrum, but were I to pick a short barreled rifle for home defense the .30 Carbine is certianly up there at the top. The risk of over penetration is much less than a .223 and we won't even get into somethig like a .308. Now before anyone jumps up and starts foaming at the mouth about how non-dangerous a .223 in a house is and how eaisly the bullet breaks up in drywall. Two thing - #1 next time you get the urge to go shoot stuff (other than just paper) grab some gyp board and really see how hard it is to actually get one to break up in it. #2 - when a .223 round breaks up it is said that it is due to the high velocity, when it comes to in the home after you hit the guy where will the bullet end up?
As a side note we also make the .30 Carb ammunition in 85g SP and HP, 90g HP, 93g SP, 100g SJSP, and 110g FMJ and SP. The 93g SP and 100g SJSP being the best for low penetration/small game work as both are half-jacket designs.

 

[C-grunt]

For self defense definitly use hollwpoints in this caliber. My friend has one and the surplus FMJ goes through just about EVERYTHING we shot it at, including a flack vest.......that point, maybe you should keep a mag of FMJ handy.