9 X 23 Question?
What is the deal with this cartridge? Why are so few pistols made to shoot this round, it's ballistics are teriffic from what I can see?
Is there no market for it? Is the cartridge too powerful for the pistols making the pistol too expensive to manufacture? Is it no fun to shoot?
Can you taylor pistols made in 9X19 to accept the 9X23?
What be the deal?
Thanks
Marshall
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I converted a Tokarev or two to 9x23mm by reaming out a 9x19mm barrel.
The Tokarevs are designed for the 7.62x25mm Tokarev round with an OAL of 1.35".
That is longer than the magazine design for 45acp at 1.275" or 9x19mm Luger at 1.169"
IIRC, the 9x23mm cartridge is not SAAMI registered, but most put the OAL at 1.245"
I have been shooting 9x23 in my Tokarev with:
158 gr Hornady XTP JHP and 16 gr of Power Pistol, 1.36"
In contrast, the Alliant max load for 357 magnum is:
158 gr Hornady XTP JHP and 8 gr of Power Pistol, 1.575"
http://www.alliantpowder.com/reload...gtypeid=1&weight=158&shellid=1015&bulletid=29
For those who know what that means, they can see my Tokarev has gone atomic with 9x23mm
I also have converted a Star Super B.
That pistol frame with long enough magazine for 9mm Largo, but is chambered for 9x19.
I converted one for 9x23mm and have been shooting it with
158 gr LSWC, 10 gr LONGSHOT, 1.129"
In contrast, Hodgdon in 2002 showed for maximum load for 357 magnum:
158 gr HNDY XTP JHP, 8.4 gr LONGSHOT, 1.580" 1394 fps, 43,200 c.u.p.
To deal with heavy recoil, I reamed out the recoil spring coweling of the Star slide from .431" to .4375", to use a spring from Wolff gunsmith pak #14 with OD = .433". More can be reamed out and a still better spring can be used, the guide rod must be reduced in diameter.
What does it all mean?
My conversions are much cheaper and more powerful than Dane Burns, but his look like jewelry for you ladies.