The Bolt Man
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1911 Feeding Problems -- Magazine Related
I am sure this subject has been beat to death, but I have to ask.
What is the perfect timing of cartridge release from the magazine for best feeding of a 1911? My Dan Wesson PM 9 with factory supplied magazine and two Wilson Combat Mags causes the bullet nose to slam hard into the barrel ramp while still being held in the lips of the magazines. Factory ammo and hand loads with OAL of 1.100" and 1.125" are a problem as are some rounds that are even shorter.
I am begining to hate what I think is called a "Timed Release Magazine". Instead of the old 45 ACP type mag lips that are tapered outward from rear to front these timed release mags have parallel lips to a point that opens up abruptly releasing the cartridge. It appears to me few if any of these mags are timed properly for most pistols or the various types of ammo.
It appears to me the magazines do not release the cartridge soon enough. I tried a couple of my 38 Super mags and one brand (no name on mag) works perfectly. That magazine releases the cartridge just as the bullet nose starts to touch the barrel ramp and it slides up into the chamber and up the face of the slide and under the extractor in a nice smooth feed. It seems to me this would be the more desirable type of feed. Much better than the clunky slam into the ramp followed by the bullet nose slamed into the top of the chamber while the cartridge is trying to be bent in two over the top radius of the ramp and base trying to move up the slide face.
This slam bam clunky feed is a problem with bullet set-back or deep seating in anything other than extremely tight bullet retention. The problem is better or worse depending on bullet nose shape. The more pointed the bullet nose, the easier it slide into the chamber after getting beat up on the ramp.
Again, "What is the perfect type of feed for the 1911"?
I am sure this subject has been beat to death, but I have to ask.
What is the perfect timing of cartridge release from the magazine for best feeding of a 1911? My Dan Wesson PM 9 with factory supplied magazine and two Wilson Combat Mags causes the bullet nose to slam hard into the barrel ramp while still being held in the lips of the magazines. Factory ammo and hand loads with OAL of 1.100" and 1.125" are a problem as are some rounds that are even shorter.
I am begining to hate what I think is called a "Timed Release Magazine". Instead of the old 45 ACP type mag lips that are tapered outward from rear to front these timed release mags have parallel lips to a point that opens up abruptly releasing the cartridge. It appears to me few if any of these mags are timed properly for most pistols or the various types of ammo.
It appears to me the magazines do not release the cartridge soon enough. I tried a couple of my 38 Super mags and one brand (no name on mag) works perfectly. That magazine releases the cartridge just as the bullet nose starts to touch the barrel ramp and it slides up into the chamber and up the face of the slide and under the extractor in a nice smooth feed. It seems to me this would be the more desirable type of feed. Much better than the clunky slam into the ramp followed by the bullet nose slamed into the top of the chamber while the cartridge is trying to be bent in two over the top radius of the ramp and base trying to move up the slide face.
This slam bam clunky feed is a problem with bullet set-back or deep seating in anything other than extremely tight bullet retention. The problem is better or worse depending on bullet nose shape. The more pointed the bullet nose, the easier it slide into the chamber after getting beat up on the ramp.
Again, "What is the perfect type of feed for the 1911"?