A 17 y/o kid tried to forced himself into my apartment.

[Jeff White]

The OC spray is very strong, it will open up your sinuses when you cuff and transport the suspect.

It’s pretty much instantly incapacitating. The eyes water so much the subject involuntarily closes them, the nose runs like a faucet and if they bring their hands to their eyes and try to wipe the OC away it just gets worse.

In an LE setting OC is not a replacement for deadly force, when an officer deploys OC it’s most often in a situation where lethal force is not justified.

 

[Darkhorse]

Don't let them put a door chain on with little BS half inch long screws that only go into the door trim. The chain anchor screws need to be anchored with at least 3 inch deck screws driven into to door studs.
I prefer 4 inch torx head deck screws.
If they busted through that then they really, really wanted to get shot. There's no possible way anyone is going to be able to sell that as something other than forced entry.

You might also consider a "hotel lock", which has a long steel loop on the frame and a metal pin on the door. They work like a chain, but are much faster to lock and harder to cut through. Long screws are a must.

 

[whm1974]

The OC spray is very strong, it will open up your sinuses when you cuff and transport the suspect.

It’s pretty much instantly incapacitating. The eyes water so much the subject involuntarily closes them, the nose runs like a faucet and if they bring their hands to their eyes and try to wipe the OC away it just gets worse.

In an LE setting OC is not a replacement for deadly force, when an officer deploys OC it’s most often in a situation where lethal force is not justified.

Earlier this year one of the other clients went off his meds and tried to set his apartment on fire with a spray can of WD-40 and a lighter. The police showed up threw a pepper spay grenade through his window. They made us wait by the main building for at least an hour before allowing us to go home.

 

[whm1974]

Due to these two YouTube videos I am almost certainly going to buy one.

 

[WestKentucky]

That sounds like a burglary investigation. Shopping for what he wanted as an easy target situation. Could be a lot worse. Yours actually left without a fuss. I once had a “glass cleaner salesman” shove his way in past my wife who told him to leave, and he just kept fussing about glass cleaner... ended up drinking some of it.... he left quickly when firearms became visible. He then got arrested a couple houses down as he had apparently done similar stuff to others and the cops were already looking for him.

 

[whm1974]

That sounds like a burglary investigation. Shopping for what he wanted as an easy target situation. Could be a lot worse. Yours actually left without a fuss. I once had a “glass cleaner salesman” shove his way in past my wife who told him to leave, and he just kept fussing about glass cleaner... ended up drinking some of it.... he left quickly when firearms became visible. He then got arrested a couple houses down as he had apparently done similar stuff to others and the cops were already looking for him.

He is damn lucky that your wife or anyone he did that too didn't shoot his sorry ass. Since he did drink some glass cleaner I will assume that he's some random crazy person who went off his meds... Glass Cleaner??? Who in Hell drinks glass cleaner???

 

[BigBL87]

As a fellow Illinoisan, while the state is more restrictive than many as far as getting a FOID card it's not AS difficult as most people think as far as disqualifiers. Here is the full list of disqualifiers (many of them are things that would kick a NICS check back anyway):

• I have not been convicted of any Felony under the laws of this or any other jurisdiction.
• I have not been adjudicated as a mental defective.
• I have not been a patient in a mental institution or any part of a medical facility for the treatment of mental illness within the past 5 years.
• I am not intellectually disabled or developmentally disabled.
• I have not within the past year (preceding the date of this application) used or been addicted to any controlled substance or narcotics in violation of state or federal law.
• I am not subject of an existing Order of Protection or a No Contact/No Stalking Order.
• I have not within the past 5 years been convicted of battery, assault, aggravated assault, violation of an order of protection, or a substantially similar offense in which a firearm was used or possessed.
• I have not been convicted of domestic battery (felony or misdemeanor), aggravated domestic battery or a substantially similar offense.
• I have not been adjudicated by a court as a mental defective or ordered by a court, board or authorized entity to in-patient or out-patient mental health treatment.
• I am not an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States.
• I have not within the past year failed a drug test for a drug for which I did not have a prescription.
• I have not been admitted to the United States under a non-immigrant visa of the Immigration and Nationality Act.
• I have never renounced my citizenship as a citizen of the United States.
• I have never been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions.
• I am not a fugitive from justice.

Now, not knowing your situation, the third and ninth would be the biggest questions. Not any of our business but those would be the two main ones to look at as you consider it. A simple diagnosis in and of itself is not a disqualifier. You do need to consider if you believe that firearm ownership is right for you given your diagnosis, for some people it might not be for their safety.

 

[MikeInOr]

Reading your post what immediately came to mind is a tweaker who's brain could not reason anything past where the money for his next fix was coming from! I am very happy to hear it ended well for you.

 

[Mr. Zorg]

OP, I'm sorry to hear of your difficulties. Good on you for posting this incident and the pertinent facts of your situation asking for advice. Hopefully there won't be a next time, but you've received numerous suggestions on how to be better prepared in case of a next time. I hope you're able to implement steps that fit your situation without a lot of hassle from the organization that is responsible for the maintenance and simple personal security items for your apartment building.

 

[whm1974]

As a fellow Illinoisan, while the state is more restrictive than many as far as getting a FOID card it's not AS difficult as most people think as far as disqualifiers. Here is the full list of disqualifiers (many of them are things that would kick a NICS check back anyway):

• I have not been convicted of any Felony under the laws of this or any other jurisdiction.
• I have not been adjudicated as a mental defective.
• I have not been a patient in a mental institution or any part of a medical facility for the treatment of mental illness within the past 5 years.
• I have not been adjudicated by a court as a mental defective or ordered by a court, board or authorized entity to in-patient or out-patient mental health treatment.

Now, not knowing your situation, the third and ninth would be the biggest questions. Not any of our business but those would be the two main ones to look at as you consider it. A simple diagnosis in and of itself is not a disqualifier. You do need to consider if you believe that firearm ownership is right for you given your diagnosis, for some people it might not be for their safety.

Well I been told by my Case Manager that they are not a medical facility after I let my Diabetes get out of control a couples of times. But that is well managed now with not issue. I have never been declared a mental defective or am I required to live where I am at.

Good statement you brought up about firearm ownership actually being right for me given my diagnosis.

 

[BigBL87]

Well I been told by my Case Manager that they are not a medical facility after I let my Diabetes get out of control a couples of times. But that is well managed now with not issue. I have never been declared a mental defective or am I required to live where I am at.

Good statement you brought up about firearm ownership actually being right for me given my diagnosis.

I'm about as pro-2A as they come, but I absolutely realize that there are instances where even if you can that doesn't mean you should. I currently work in corrections but my educational background is in psychology and counseling, so I try to be very cognizant of these kinds of things when it comes to 2A issues.

A little bit of self disclosure, when my father was diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer I spoke with my father-in-law about holding my firearms for a short time. It never ended up happening but I recognized that, right at that moment, I was not in a great frame of mind and it was something I needed to think about. My father and I were very close and I was absolutely beside myself, my wife had my OK to call him if she felt like he needed to take them as well. Especially when it comes to firearm ownership, I think we need to be keenly aware of our states of mind.

 

[whm1974]

I'm about as pro-2A as they come, but I absolutely realize that there are instances where even if you can that doesn't mean you should. I currently work in corrections but my educational background is in psychology and counseling, so I try to be very cognizant of these kinds of things when it comes to 2A issues.

A little bit of self disclosure, when my father was diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer I spoke with my father-in-law about holding my firearms for a short time. It never ended up happening but I recognized that, right at that moment, I was not in a great frame of mind and it was something I needed to think about. My father and I were very close and I was absolutely beside myself, my wife had my OK to call him if she felt like he needed to take them as well. Especially when it comes to firearm ownership, I think we need to be keenly aware of our states of mind.

Speaking only for myself, I have never had thoughts about harming myself or others, and I never been a violent person in my life. I am also the "90 pound weakling"...

 

[Robert]

There is a lot of good info here. Read over it, see how it applies to you and your situation. Let's call this one done. If anyone has more useful tips or information please PM the OP.

 

[hso]

ell the Kimber Pepper blaster seems to be the best option for me as I can carry one without anyone nary the wiser... Two reviews here that put this in really favorable light.

https://www.officer.com/tactical/em...cle/10894839/kimber-pepperblaster-ii-a-review
https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2012/4/30/the-kimber-pepper-blaster-ii/

Use the NFW pepper spray sticky for selection OR just ask the local LE what they're carrying and buy that.