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A comment an anti actually appreciated... Amazing.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by camslam, Sep 10, 2007.

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  1. camslam

    camslam Member

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    I try to keep up on what the anti's are saying and Robyn Ringler is someone I'm sure some of you are familiar with. This was a email to her from one of us that actually made it to her website. Congrats to the writer for his success and his well written letter.

    Good info in it and I thought some of you might enjoy it.

    http://blogs.timesunion.com/underfire/

     
  2. cnorman18

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    VERY well done!

    Reason, logic, courtesy and respect will go farther than belligerent defiance and bluster--especially since the latter two merely serve to confirm the antis' worst suspicions.

    Again, very well done.
     
  3. JKimball

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    Nice! Thanks for posting Camslam.

    benEzra, way to go!
     
  4. strat81

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    I've seen benEzra's name here on THR. Very eloquent, articulate gentleman.
     
  5. The Unknown User

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    Wow, that was a great read. Thank you so much for sharing. :)
     
  6. SaMx

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    very good comment, but the link at the end appears to be broken.
     
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    anyone know the history of this blogger? Not the person who wrote the letter, rather I'm talking about Mrs. Ringler.
     
  8. .cheese.

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    Can somebody try the link logged in to DU? I have a feeling that may have a great deal to do with the error message.
     
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    I believe that mysterious democratic knowledge base of gun toting wisdom frequents here on THR. I really enjoy his posts. Nice work Ben!!! I noticed you were asking about Ringler. Still Kudo's.
     
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    .cheese,
    Check out the link in the original post. Her summary says she is a nurse that attended to Reagan when he was shot and has been a gun control activist since then.
     
  11. camslam

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    I'm not sure why the link won't work. Sorry about that. Here is the info on Ms. Ringler and the name of her blog.

    Under Fire (Blog Name)

    I'm Robyn Ringler, a nurse, attorney and freelance writer in Ballston Lake. I'm also a gun control activist who became deeply affected by America's gun violence problem while caring for President Ronald Reagan after the assassination attempt. Let's talk about guns. Robyn Ringler, Ballston Lake, NY
     
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    If you go to the blog the link there works.
     
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    Wow. I knew that was BenEzra before I got passed the 3rd paragraph. :)
     
  14. .cheese.

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    Right.... I did see that. Perhaps what I should have asked was, how well known is she? ie: anybody ever hear of her before, and if so does she tend to be influential at all or not. She's not a poli, but the blogosphere has power these days.
     
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    Great job! Truly an example of taking the high road and being heard.
     
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    She recently turned off the comments section on her blog, a la Brady; so her current audience could probably fit into a phone booth.
     
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    The leftist extremists need to get the camel's nose under the edge of the tent before bringing in the whole camel.
     
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    Very nice choice of wording.
     
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    benEzra,

    I enjoyed your article and found it to be well thought out. Thanks for such an eloquent dissertation explaining your truth about responsible law-abiding firearms ownership.

    I however would like to point out that I am cautious regarding the political bent of anybody when speaking of "gun control" (read; "people control"). In such instances they are not "Conservative" or "Liberal", but "freedom thieves" to me. It would be great if we could all remember that, it would make articles like yours that much more powerful.

    Regards,
     
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    Thank You!Thank You!Thank You!Thank You! benEzra

    First for that thoughtful, concise, articulate response to the anti, but even more so for the link to your original essay - I've been looking for a copy almost since I frst read it a couple years ago - a beautiful mix of facts woven and presented with unassailable reason and irrefutable logic. Kudos, magna sum est, to you, sir
     
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    Now find me a democratic candidate that will support this and I might just have to not vote for Ron Paul. Just kidding, but this seriously changed my opinions on democrat chances if they went pro-gun. Nice to see the anti from SF wasn't all about children. Her ignorance is so obvious that I can't blame her for wanting to stop those cop killer bullets, guns in homes, and high capacity full auto magazines. Don't hate antis, educate them and maybe we will have a few more gunnies out of it.
     
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    Ben Ezra:

    I hope you are ok that I put this here. I really thought it was well written and I thought others on the forum would appreciate it.

    Thanks.
     
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    Totally fine (and I'm flattered). I also don't mind people lifting/adapting arguments to use elsewhere (in fact, I hope they do).

    I was quite surprised that Robyn R. crossposted that to her front page, but I think it's because she had gotten a string of really rude comments that made a polite one stand out.
     
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    I used to be anti. Sure, I'd shoot a .22 rifle with my dad every now and then, or some skeet with a 20 gauge, but in high school I mocked my pro-gun friends and wondered why people thought they needed assault rifles.

    Then I came to college. There were a lot of gun guys in my wing of the dorm, and I became friends with all of them. They weren't just hunters or occasional plinkers, guns were their passion. Several of them are on THR. I never told them I was anti, I don't like confrontation and I prefer to leave people alone to think and do what they want. Just getting to know them, finding that they were very reasonable, personable, and rational individuals is what converted me. I didn't even need any of the wide variety of legitimate pro-gun arguments they could have offered. Realizing that they're decent people was the primary factor in shifting my views on gun ownership of all sorts. Hearing those arguments later brought me farther over to this side, but in my case they were irrelevant, I would have figured it out for myself eventually. Its reasoned communication like your letter and exposure to the good will and generosity that I've come to associate with "gun guys" that changed my mind. THR as a whole exemplifies this, as well, and that's most of the reason I frequent the site. I have a few ex-anti friends that were won over the same way. Kudos to you, and to everyone on THR of promoting the gun owners true image: decent people just like everyone else.
     
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