A modern 9mm levergun, yes you read this correctly

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I think the price point might hurt this. With that being said I’d like to get behind it via a rental first.
 
I have a question for all those saying it's ugly. What is a levergun, that is optimized for defensive use, chambered in a defensive cartridge, utilizing a "high capacity" detachable box magazine, supposed to look like??? The AR15 platform has evolved into a premiere fighting rifle. Why wouldn't a levergun optimized for a similar purpose utilize some of the same features? No, it doesn't look like a pre-war 1892 but I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to. Why does a levergun 'have' to look like granddad's old Winchester 94? An AR15 doesn't look like a Winchester 1903 so.........

I bet they’d prefer a belt fed Ruger.



https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog...up-lever-action-rifle-chambered-in-44-magnum/
 
Barnum was right...

Anyhow - the only question is really - why?
Is there some hidden quality about it?

It would be an wonderful little carbine with a suppressor. Manual actions do that slightly better than semi-autos. No reliance on enough gas pressure or recoil to cycle the action and thus with less gas and a fixed breach potentially a quieter gun too.
 
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Ugh, for $2G? No way.
Besides, having Torx, Allen, and flat head fasteners staring at me from the same panel sends my OCD spinning into a rage-
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Ughhhh, worked too long in engineering and logistics, that picture hits me right in the feelz.

I do like the idea of a 9mm carbine along these lines, or even better a .40 cal as @mcb mentioned, but the execution and price are falling short here. Why proprietary mags when they could have used one of the many semi standardized pistol or PCC mags out there? As for the price, $2k is a lot for me for what basically amounts to a suppressor toy, I guess it's not too far out of the norm though, Given what companies like Q charge for Gucci toys in the same general class.
 
I read about it last night in Firearms News magazine. Seems like a decent idea, especially those who are trapped in areas that make semi auto ownership difficult.

The reviewers seemed to like the idea and the way the gun performed. I bet if it were a 10mm, so it had a bit more oomph, it would make a handy camping gun for all around use. :)
WA state gov started discussing an "assault weapon" ban recently, and I'm sure it will pass. I ordered a 9 mm semiauto PCC within an hour of waking up to that headline! I've been kicking myself for not stocking up on standard mags and maybe an 80% when I had the chance, so don't want to make that mistake again. Gonna put it in a bullpup stock to make it maximally offensive to the law!

If I wasn't too lazy to hunt, I'd have got the 10 mm version. Blacktail deer in western Washington are usually shot at pretty close range, I believe, and a 10 mm bullpup with a red-dot or low power scope would be a hilarious "deer gun," but I suppose it would work adequately.

But $2000 for this? No thanks. I'll shop for another Rossi 92. Revolver cartridges are easier to reload anyway...
 
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I like this for the same reason I like the new High Power in FDE. It pisses off the traditionalists.

I really don't need it in 9mm, but I might squirl the money for one aside anyway. Innovation like this must be rewarded. Oh, and I personally dig the way it looks.
 
If they released this in 10mm I would be very tempted to pair it with Hi-Points new JXP 10mm pistol.

Silliness aside if the trend is going to be expanding capacity on leverguns now beyond just a tubular magazine, can I get one with the rotating tubular magazines found on SRM shotguns instead?
 
If they released this in 10mm I would be very tempted to pair it with Hi-Points new JXP 10mm pistol.



Silliness aside if the trend is going to be expanding capacity on leverguns now beyond just a tubular magazine, can I get one with the rotating tubular magazines found on SRM shotguns instead?


At $225 MSRP, I consider the 10mm Hi Point a must-own.
 
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How about a modern version of the 1886 Josselyn chain fed revolver?

For those jurisdictions where even semi auto belt feds are illegal, but you still want something with a belt.

It was 20 shot, but maybe include a 10 shot chain for certain states.

Can I get it with belts that aren't looped so that my assistant gunner/loader can feed in new belts while I shoot?
 
I can't believe no one is beeyitchin' about the cross bolt safety on this 9mm lever gun.

It caught my attention, with it looking like it does I would have just put an AR style safety on there. I'm not a fan of crossbolt safeties, and the AR style safety is ubiquitous and easy to operate.
 
I have a question for all those saying it's ugly. What is a levergun, that is optimized for defensive use, chambered in a defensive cartridge, utilizing a "high capacity" detachable box magazine, supposed to look like??? The AR15 platform has evolved into a premiere fighting rifle. Why wouldn't a levergun optimized for a similar purpose utilize some of the same features? No, it doesn't look like a pre-war 1892 but I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to. Why does a levergun 'have' to look like granddad's old Winchester 94? An AR15 doesn't look like a Winchester 1903 so........



The 1895 did not have a detachable magazine.

Don't know how heavy the barrel is if the rifle is under 6lbs.

It's not a quad rail either.

I have the Magpul SGA stock on an 870 and it's quite comfortable.

CraigC, I get along with damn near all your posts, but, that 9mm lever thing is plain ugly. Leave our normal lever rifle alone. Don't give the anti's ANY room to work with.
 
1. I believe in freedom, so yeah, build & buy whatever you want.

2. The people who designed that monstrosity have to be either stupid or insane. (other than maybe the thing actually works)

3. The people that buy it must be at least as stupid, insane, have zero taste, class, or are high on meth. I can see it selling at $400. Add could say, "It's ugly as ****, but it works". Having a 2 grand price tag???

4. How they got the licensing for the "Tombstone" name, and logo, (I'm thinking that's tied up with the western movie) with that thing is beyond me.

The 9mm is a great round, and not all that expensive. Lever guns are also great fun, and politically safe (for now) in a lot of liberal areas. Why not work towards getting one to work with a tubular mag, and a more traditional design? You could still have 10 or 15 of the short little rounds in the tube. Maybe work on a way to have quick replaceable mag tubes. That thing is an abomination. It's the gun version of being seen driving a Prius, or a Yugo.
 
The front and rear sights are attached to the same piece of aluminum, pretty standard fare nowadays...so the front and rear sights remain on the same plane. If you're applying enough pressure to flex/bend a rigidly mounted aluminum handguard...you probably need to adjust and reevaluate your shooting technique.

Front sights mounted on a rigid, free-floating aluminum handguard has been the popular norm on AR's for @ 15 years or so. If it didn't work, we'd already be doing to next cool thing by now.

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Front sights mounted on a rigid, free-floating aluminum handguard has been the popular norm on ARs for as long as they have been the backup sights. If you are not applying enough pressure to flex-bend a rigidly mounted aluminum handguard, you don't need a free-floated barrel. It could be cheaper. I was just pointing out the inconsistencies in their design choices. My AR has the iron sight mounted on a free-float rail, because I don't actually shoot with the irons.
 
CraigC, I get along with damn near all your posts, but, that 9mm lever thing is plain ugly. Leave our normal lever rifle alone. Don't give the anti's ANY room to work with.

So you must not like the Henry Long Ranger that is magazine fed, because that "gives anti's room to work with." :confused:

The anti's will take whatever room they want, no matter what our modern day firearms look like, to say otherwise is naive.
 
So you must not like the Henry Long Ranger that is magazine fed, because that "gives anti's room to work with." :confused:

The anti's will take whatever room they want, no matter what our modern day firearms look like, to say otherwise is naive.


I don’t know when/how fudd central command got the idea to beam out that wood will protect it from getting banned and makes it not a weapon of war.
 
looks super fun.
Can I get mine in 260 Rem ?
Don't try ro deny that you need this. You will end up on a psychiatrist couch somewhere.
 
If it works like its supposed to, then I like it.

Yep, too expensive for me, others can afford it.

It does serve a viable purpose.

I dont care what they look like as long as it gets the job done.
 
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