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A pellet pistol for practice inside during winter.

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by clutch, Nov 21, 2010.

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  1. cougar1717

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    I have a few friends that shoot ISPC who use the high quality airsoft guns to keep their skills up. They say it works.
     
  2. CTPhil

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    Just curious, why not super colibris out of a pistol?
     
  3. clutch

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    Are these what is known as paint ball guns?

    Thanks,

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  4. Dudemeister

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    No they are not.

    Airsoft guns shoot either a 6mm or an 8mm plastic ball propelled by either a compressed gas charge or by means of a piston driven by an electric motor. Although there exists 6mm paint ball ammo, most airsofters use them with the normal plastic "BB's", as the small paint filled balls tend to break in the gun during rapid fire and make a mess.

    Airsoft as a game is very similar to the paintball, except it's played with much more realistic weapons and more real life strategies. There's even bio-degradable ammo available to make sure all this plastic doesn't end up in a landfill.

    Others still use them as training devices as they more often than not resemble real steel in every respect, some can be disassembled and re-assembled like the real steel counterparts.

    And some, like me, collect them and use them for indoor fun when not participating in airsoft skirmishes.
     
  5. Dudemeister

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    Here are a couple of images of what the average paintball skirmish and airsoft teams look like.

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  6. Last Knight

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    ^+1 on this.
     
  7. chicharrones

    chicharrones needs more ammo

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    A cheap way to start is with a CO2 BB gun. I find the inexpensive sub $80 airsoft guns lacking in accuracy for my usual 10 to 20 yard shooting.

    I have a few CO2 pistols at the $60 to $80 dollar mark and are good rapid fire practice tools for indoors, but the best for the money (IMO) is a Umarex copy of a Makarov. It doesn't have blowback, but it is the most accurate CO2 BB repeater I've experienced. It has a typical double action trigger and the hammer can be cocked separately if you wish. It's "metal" for realistic weight and is still only $60.00.

    http://www.pyramydair.com/p/makarov-co2-air-pistol.shtml

    My only "target" shooting air pistol is an old surplus Predom Lucznik springer, but it is only good for 7 to 10 yards since the pellet velocity is so slow.
    http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2007/05/predom-target-pistol-by-lucznik.html
     
  8. chicharrones

    chicharrones needs more ammo

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    +1 on that. I have one and the only good thing on it is the light trigger and the fact the blowback cocks the hammer each shot. It's fun, but not what I call a "shooter".
     
  9. oldbanjo

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    I shoot a pellet Rifle three or four day a week all summer long, shooting Turtles and Snakes in the pond. A pellet pistol will help your shooting but I'd look for something that feels like the Gun that I carry and has a similar trigger pull. Why practice with a Gun with an entirely different grip and a soft trigger pull.
     
  10. doc540

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    I use an Airsoft of the same size as my IDPA Commander.

    It's effective at killing paper and provides good indoor practice.

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  11. gofastman

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    MUCH louder, not too much faster.
     
  12. clutch

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    I'm leaning towards buying one of those at the moment. If I master shooting with one hand which is what that pistol is geared towards, having support in other modes of shooting should improve.

    I want to shoot idpa again after a 5 year hiatus. Quite often you have to shoot one handed so this can't hurt. Looks like the grip is set up for RH so LH (weak) shooting might require different grips.

    I still haven't nailed down what to use for rapid fire. Are these air soft things with the 6mm plastic pellets accurate at 10M?

    Thanks,

    Clutch
     
  13. 9mmepiphany

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    My airsoft Sig 226 has a muzzle velocity of 300-340fps pushing a .15g-.20g 6mm pellet with Green Gas. I've used in for building clearing exercises and it has been accurate across a regular sized lobby...20+ feet. I would think a pistol with a hop up kit (adds backspin, reduces velocity, but increases range) should be accurate to 33 ft
     
  14. CTPhil

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    Just curious, why not super colibris out of a pistol?
    Thanks!
     
  15. Jerry68

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    With gas airsoft guns, if you don't mind policing up all the little plastic BB's, you can run realistic training scenarios in your own home. My finished basement basically looks like an IPSC/IDPA range in the Winter months.
     
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    Just be careful of breakables and wear eye protection. The 6mm pellets will shatter glass and some plastic. Also be aware of ventilation, the propane builds up in the room
     
  17. Harley Quinn

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    I believe the pellet pistols would be the way to go...The shooting of actual powder 22's gained over the topic, which is to bad...

    Making up a good target to collect the pellets and safe being the answer always...

    Sounds like fun:)

    Regards
     
  18. dewalt-2

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    My airsofts ... dug them out for pics. Both have adjustable hop up, and are great shooters.
    WE 1911...
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    M9 PTP...
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    And a couple of antiques that still hold their own
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    Pumpmaster Classic at Wallyworld. 177 pneumatic, less than 100 bucks, proven design, easily accurate enough for indoor practice, we shoot our out back at 40 yards.
     
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    Another vote of support for the IZH-46M :)
     
  22. clutch

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    I didn't know how hard this would be :cuss:. In Michigan, a rifled barreled pellet pistol is classified as a firearm. This seems to eliminate them from most mass retailers since the paperwork for a 'permit to purchase' is something they don't want to deal with on a 50-100 dollar air pistol.

    The IZH-46M is on my buy list but that will have to wait until my April vacation that will put me in visiting distance of a down state air gun retailer.

    I just tried an online order for a 1377 with a wallyworld in store pickup where they can see my CCW which pre-clears me for real firearms. I'll report how that works out.

    Clutch
     
  23. xr1200

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    umarex walther ppk with laser bb repeater, great for indoor and garage use, very well made and very real in appearance and firing mode and has a real blow back slide on it, also very cheap to shoot. Bought it for wife to simlulate firing SW 380 body guard.
    Paid $69 online
     
  24. MostlySurly

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    Why so much money?

    Clutch,
    I go through thousands of pellets per winter in my garage, shooting the Crossman 357 CO2 revolver.
    1.) It's a helluva lot of fun. SA/DA/rapid fire... all ok. Bullseye with good ammo, rapid fire with the Daisy bulk.
    2.) It's cheap, warm practice.
    3.) Other than heft, it is nearly identical to my Python.
    -- Buying a Umarex Beretta CO2 PX4 in a couple days for the same #3 reason, to match up with my new edc.

    You can do a lot of beneficial practice without spending a lot on the airgun. I'm under no illusion that my Crossman is a card-splitter, but with the right ammo, it's plenty accurate to refine some techniques. With a little 'smithing, you can smooth out the trigger pretty well, also. My trigger control and overall shooting has improved immeasurably since I set the pellet trap in the garage.
    Just my $.02, put the gun savings into pellets and cartridges.:)
     
  25. KosmicKrunch

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    I am not sure what guns you have but "Convert-a-Pell" at http://convert-a-pell.com/ makes conversion units for all types of pistols, semi auto, revolvers, singles etc. The company also sells a low powered primer that is about 1/3 the power of the recommended small pistol primer. Indoors, be mindful of primer residue/lead pellet in the air. A decent fan with a hose down into a can of water, sealed at the top of the can (large coffee can) will take care of that and rem eye protection. You can also use the plastic bodied pellets to reduce the lead.

    I also have this vintage unit for my .38 spl. "Lachmiller Pip-Squeak Pellet Conversion." 5 steel cases with a pellet sized hole in the center and are shot with small pistol primers or even the convert a pell reduced load primers.
     

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