Acceptance of Glock over the years.

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LTR shooter said:
I fired one for the first time in the late 1980s , a Glock 17 if I recall. I found it to be the least desirable handgun I had ever fired at that time. Since that time I've handled many at gun shows and none ever felt right.

A few years ago another guy let me shoot his Glock in 40 S&W and I finally experienced something I've never felt before - the trigger pinched my finger with every shot.

The widespread acceptance is undeniable , I'll never understand the appeal of these pistols.
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I'm right with ya.
I've fired several Glocks over the years just trying to be fair in my evaluation/opinion of them.
Give 'em another chance so to speak.
But, try as I may, I just don't like anything about them at all.
I don't like the striker action.
The angle of the grip is all wrong for "me."
I don't like the trigger, etc...
I just don't like 'em and will never buy one for myself...ever.
They seem to be good pistols, but they are truly not for me.
Oh well....to each his own.
 
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I have a Nevada CCW and have been a one make (Acceptance Value) one model .. Glock 19 which has been Perfection (Glock slang, but true). Until I picked up a buddies Beretta PX4 Compact at the range, I was amazed at the difference in grip/sight presentation and felt recoil of the (my go to) Speer.. Gold Dot 115gr / Lawman 147gr . I am now A two make, two model owner. My Glock 19 rules when gloves are needed (I winter in Minnesota) and My PX4 loves the heat of Las Vegas.
 
Since a 1911 works just as well as any other semi-auto, I'll stay with blue and wood, mostly.

Bottom line: "The best pistol is the one with which you can best hit the target."
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Im with Art. Tried them, just dont cotton to them. YMMV
 
New shooters quickly learn how to shoot them. Old farts who have used something else their whole lives struggle with them. I've spoken to training officers in 3 different PD's about their experiences when they changed to Glocks. All 3 have told me the exact same story. New guys with little shooting experiece picked them up and were instantly outshooting their instructors. The older guys who had used something else their whole lives struggled and it took them several hundred rounds on the range to become as proficient as they had been with previous guns.I had the same issues with my 1st Glock.

They are different, but every older cop in our local PD I've spoken to would not switch to anything else now that they have mastered the gun. The younger guys who have known nothing but Glocks are starting to experiment with other designs. I don't see glocks lock on the LE market going away, but newer designs such as the M&P and the FNX are getting attention and will cut into Glocks dominance.

I like a Glock just fine now that I've learned how to shoot one. They are not the only good gun, but nothing else is enough better for me to consider changing.
 
If you go back to the 80s there was a lot going on in 9mm. The wonder 9s hit with Sigs and Berretta considered the class of the field and CZs the little guy that could. The wonder 9s were not loved by the gun community. They were called ugly but they worked and worked pretty well they were not inexpensive. Glocks came in a few years later. I was in Korea at the time. When I got back they were everywhere. I didn't buy one, by then I had a Sig 226 and was very happy with it. Again, the Glocks were hated but the wonder 9s had breached the trench line and secured the entry point and Glocks were pouring in. At no point were they declared the future and given free access. They did it the hard way, trials and torture tests kept saying the hated things worked. They worked when they shouldn't have, they worked when they should. They were also relatively inexpensive. They were working guns for working people. They were not given a thing, they earned their position. They were smart in their marketing and they had what was a superior product that cost considerably less than their competition. At this point someone is going to say it was not superior, it was. It was lighter, had more capacity and was at least as dependable as Sigs and Beretta. The lower price combined with this made it very attractive. I bought my first one in 95. I lost my Sig in my divorce and I needed a new gun and did not have the money for another Sig so I decided to try a Glock. I've never looked back. I don't own a ton of guns, if I don't see a need I don't buy one. I don't want to spend a lot of money when I do. I do think Glock has been sitting on its laurels and others have caught up to them, S&W in particular.
 
JohnBiltz said:
If you go back to the 80s there was a lot going on in 9mm. The wonder 9s hit with Sigs and Berretta considered the class of the field and CZs the little guy that could. The wonder 9s were not loved by the gun community. They were called ugly but they worked and worked pretty well they were not inexpensive. Glocks came in a few years later. I was in Korea at the time. When I got back they were everywhere. I didn't buy one, by then I had a Sig 226 and was very happy with it. Again, the Glocks were hated but the wonder 9s had breached the trench line and secured the entry point and Glocks were pouring in. At no point were they declared the future and given free access. They did it the hard way, trials and torture tests kept saying the hated things worked. They worked when they shouldn't have, they worked when they should. They were also relatively inexpensive. They were working guns for working people. They were not given a thing, they earned their position. They were smart in their marketing and they had what was a superior product that cost considerably less than their competition. At this point someone is going to say it was not superior, it was. It was lighter, had more capacity and was at least as dependable as Sigs and Beretta. The lower price combined with this made it very attractive. I bought my first one in 95. I lost my Sig in my divorce and I needed a new gun and did not have the money for another Sig so I decided to try a Glock. I've never looked back. I don't own a ton of guns, if I don't see a need I don't buy one. I don't want to spend a lot of money when I do. I do think Glock has been sitting on its laurels and others have caught up to them, S&W in particular.
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"Paragraphs" man.
Use paragraphs.
Geeze...
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I own several Glocks. They are all that I consider when selecting an EDC. One thing I notice about myself and other Glockers is that we don't give a hoot about what anyone else thinks of our gun. Mine works for me. That's all that counts. So, if you don't like Glocks, don't buy them. See you in the USPSA and IDPA shoots. And good luck to you.
 
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Those that do not like Glocks, I suspect, have never fired several thousands of rounds through them. I suspect after the first couple thousand rounds with out a hiccup they would say "jeeze, this thing surely is reliable". I also suspect they would also start saying "jeeze, this thing is very accurate. It's me that makes it inaccurate". I'm sitting here typing with a FN Tactical & RMR combo on my side trying to carry it daily recently. I also have a safe full of some of the best 1911's you can buy. Along with a Beretta and misc. other brands. I still think the Glock 19 & 23 (though the design is old as the hills) are the epitome of concealed carry pistols. I carry them MOST of the time. The FN Tactical/RMR combo is an absolutely great pistol, probably the "best available". However, it too loses to the lowly, inexpensive, Glock when it comes to daily 24/7 carry. Just my opinion but it's based on owning, carrying, and shooting a lot of hand guns.
 
In 1983 I bought one of the first Generation 1 17s to hit these shores. The gun shot well but the plastic sights bugged me and I sold it. This was a bit before METAL night sights and all the custom parts and sights mind you. What an idiot...Now several years later I have 4 of them. Every single one of them has had ZERO malfunctions. NONE. Gen 2 17, 26, 30, and 21. They aren't pretty range toys, they're TOOLS and that's fine by me.
 
mes228 said:
Those that do not like Glocks, I suspect, have never fired several thousands of rounds through them. I suspect after the first couple thousand rounds with out a hiccup they would say "jeeze, this thing surely is reliable". I also suspect they would also start saying "jeeze, this thing is very accurate. It's me that makes it inaccurate". I'm sitting here typing with a FN Tactical & RMR combo on my side trying to carry it daily recently. I also have a safe full of some of the best 1911's you can buy. Along with a Beretta and misc. other brands. I still think the Glock 19 & 23 (though the design is old as the hills) are the epitome of concealed carry pistols. I carry them MOST of the time. The FN Tactical/RMR combo is an absolutely great pistol, probably the "best available". However, it too loses to the lowly, inexpensive, Glock when it comes to daily 24/7 carry. Just my opinion but it's based on owning, carrying, and shooting a lot of hand guns.
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You suspect correct. For some, it doesn't require several thousand, or several hundred for that matter, to find that a certain weapon is not a good fit. Sans hiccups or not, Glocks don't fit me, and as much as I've shot and tried to like those of friends of mine, they continue to be inept in my hands. Reliability isn't worth jack if the guy firing it can't hit what he's aiming at for whatever reason. Polish a turd, and it's still a turd.
 
abq87120 said:
I own several Glocks. They are all that I consider when selecting an EDC. One thing I notice about myself and other Glockers is that we don't give a hoot about what anyone else thinks of our gun. Mine works for me. That's all that counts. So, if you don't like Glocks, don't buy them. See you in the USPSA and IDPA shoots. And good luck to you.
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Sounds to me like you are taking this a little too personally.
I don't give a flying rats butt if you do, or do not, like any of the guns I own either.
Why should I?
Big deal, and who cares?
Not everybody likes the same guns any more than the same cars or trucks or music or food or anything else.
Go take some Midol there Nancy.
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Lol..."If you don't like Glocks, then don't buy them?"
Is that supposed to be some sort of passed on folksy wisdom or something?
If I don't like Glocks....why "WOULD" I buy one in the first place?
I don't need "you" to tell me that.

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mes228 said:
Those that do not like Glocks, I suspect, have never fired several thousands of rounds through them. I suspect after the first couple thousand rounds with out a hiccup they would say "jeeze, this thing surely is reliable". I also suspect they would also start saying "jeeze, this thing is very accurate. It's me that makes it inaccurate". I'm sitting here typing with a FN Tactical & RMR combo on my side trying to carry it daily recently. I also have a safe full of some of the best 1911's you can buy. Along with a Beretta and misc. other brands. I still think the Glock 19 & 23 (though the design is old as the hills) are the epitome of concealed carry pistols. I carry them MOST of the time. The FN Tactical/RMR combo is an absolutely great pistol, probably the "best available". However, it too loses to the lowly, inexpensive, Glock when it comes to daily 24/7 carry. Just my opinion but it's based on owning, carrying, and shooting a lot of hand guns.
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Honestly, you should stop "suspecting."
Bottom line is that many folks will never really like Glocks whether they fire 100 rounds or 100-billion rounds through them.
Makes no difference.

Nobody here is "bashing" Glocks at all from what I can tell.
Far from it.
Glocks have a GREAT reputation...and from what I have seen, it's well earned too. But they are just not for "everybody," no matter how much "you" like yours.
There are quite a few other handguns out there that are reliable and accurate as well, but fit other people better.
 
It's like the truck brand wars. For years all I owned was Ford trucks, now I own a Dodge 3500 DRW truck and love it. Some guy's only buy Chevy's. Why ??? It's personal preference.

Same with firearms. Mostly it's personal preference. Glocks have proven themselves since the 80's as being one of the most reliable & durable handguns you can purchase.

I have a bunch of Glocks because they always go bang when I squeeze the trigger. I trust my life to my Glock 27 and my wife trusts her life to a Glock 26.
 
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Dear Thr,
I have noticed that people in general are more open to the idea of Glock being one of the industry leaders and possibly one of the best auto loader is most categories. This was not the case a few years back, but I guess due to their cosistent quality and renowned reliability more civilians are considering Glocks then ever before. What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks
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Glock took handguns in a different direction by using technology, design philosophy, and marketing in applications and intensity that was unique at the time. Glock was not the first to use polymer frames, simplified designs, standardized parts, CNC machining, or aggressive marketing - but the did ALL those things very consistently. What Henry Ford (and later, the VW Beetle) did to the auto industry, Glock did to the handgun industry.
Glock made inroads in the law enforcement community by making a dependable, rugged, accurate-enough, simple handgun that was mass-produced in volume and marketed in a predatory manner. They did whatever it took to get Glocks into the hands of decision makers at LEAs, and made the pricing too attractive to pass up. The idea of a standardized, affordable sidearm appealed greatly to LEAs, for many good reasons. In 1984, the Sheriff's Department I worked for issued Model 19s, but allowed deputies to carry an incredible variety of personally-owned sidearms. I worked at one substation where all eight deputies were carrying different weapons - BHP, S&W 59, 19, 28, a .44Special, a .41 with reduced loads, a .45acp moonclipped revolver (guess he was AHEAD of his time!), and a 1911. Not many worries about sharing mags/speedloaders there...
Glock's successful penetration of the LE market opened the civilian market as well. Enough LEOs sang the Glock's praises, and were seen carrying them, that public acceptance was inevitable. Did Glock influence the handgun market? Well, what's the ratio of polymer-framed models to metal framed ones at your LGS?
Glocks don't appeal to everyone. They don't fit everyone. Neither does any other brand of any other product. Had Glock never happened, who knows - maybe S&W would still be making 59s.
I still love my 1911s and S&W wheel guns, and will continue to shoot them, but I've purchased four new handguns this year - LC9, M&P 9c, G30, and G34. They are my first polymer frames, but probably won't be my last.
 
I don't care for Glocks personally (ergos are not for me) but it seems obvious that they are known and accepted as quality firearms that are reliable. As I said I have tons of other preferences just with poly framed guns but I get where all the love for Glock comes from.
 
I think that the GEN 4 Glocks will reduce the "wrong grip angle" or "wrong size" issues for some people. I talked to a range officer a year or so ago and he was "Glock does not fit" or "Anything but Glock". He picked up a GEN 4 17 from the case and handed it to me and noticed that "gee this does feel better". A few days ago, I saw the same range officer helping a shooter (having issues with 1911) and he commented that he now had a Glock as his primary carry gun.

So, is Glock right for everyone? No.
Is Glock the only choice for a quality weapon? No.
Is Glock a good choice for many? Yes
Do I like Glock guns? Yes
 
If I don't like Glocks....why "WOULD" I buy one in the first place?
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To use as a beater. That's why I bought mine. I considered a few others, but I chose a Glock because of the finish.

Out eight 1911s and three glocks, I've had more problems out of three Glocks. And one of those 1911s was an AMT...

Sorry Glock, and 1911 manufactures, but if I had to trust my life to an untested pistol, it would be a Sig. I have never seen a broken Sig.
 
Zach S said:
To use as a beater. That's why I bought mine. I considered a few others, but I chose a Glock because of the finish.

Out eight 1911s and three glocks, I've had more problems out of three Glocks. And one of those 1911s was an AMT...

Sorry Glock, and 1911 manufactures, but if I had to trust my life to an untested pistol, it would be a Sig. I have never seen a broken Sig.
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To use as a beater?
Well, that's a thought I guess.
I don't really own any guns specifically bought to use as a beater.
On the other hand, I don't really own any guns specifically bought to be a Safe Queen collectors item either I guess.

I usually buy guns that I hope will be tough and durable for most applications, but that also still shoot rather well too.
That's what I try for anyways.....
 
meanmrmustard said:
I accept Glock as an arms maker of reliable weapons, nothing more.
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Well said.Certainly not the only gun thats super reliable in general.Just one of many.I still think the XD and M&P's are right up there.Its just a matter of choice that we are lucky to have.
 
I have noticed that people in general are more open to the idea of Glock being one of the industry leaders and possibly one of the best auto loader is most categories. This was not the case a few years back, but I guess due to their cosistent quality and renowned reliability more civilians are considering Glocks then ever before. What are your thoughts on this?
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Read the book...

Glock: The Rise of America's Gun
 
I don't really own any guns specifically bought to use as a beater.
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That's understandable. Most people don't own a car they specifically bought to use as a beater, but I have one of those as well, and it was cheaper and is more beat up than my Glock...
 
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