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Acquaintance want me to provide his ammo..

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Shooter973, Mar 29, 2009.

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  1. Shooter973

    Shooter973 Member

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    A fellow that I was acquainted with about 5 years ago showed up on my doorstep last night. He is a fairly nice guy but we are not really friends, I've never been in his home. He is quite well to do and I'm just Joe blue collar.
    Well the Ammo shortage has caught up to him. And he thought of me, the neighborhood gun guy. He wanted me to find him some high quality Hollow point ammo for his 45acp's . He has 2 Kimbers. And the same type ammo in 357 Sig. and 380 Auto.
    I told him he was about a year behind the curve on getting any of that. :scrutiny:
    Then he wanted me to use my componentes to reload him about 1000 rounds of each of HIS prefered ammo. He said that he would pay me a "good" price for it and he would try and replace my components sometime soon.
    I don't want to be a jerk but I don't want to use up my components that I got at what are now good prices, in the hopes that he will be able to replace them at his leisure. I just don't want to do any reloading for him, but he thinks that HIS time is to valuable to learn how to do and then the supply problems are there also. How can I handle this with out coming off as a real Jerk. I know all about not reloading for others with out the Federal licenses and so forth but he says that it'll just be between us and no one needs to know.
    You thoughts and idea would be welcome.....:confused:
     
  2. alemonkey

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    I'd just tell him you don't feel comfortable with it. What if you make a mistake and he's injured? If he's a decent guy he should drop it at that and not push you.
     
  3. ThrottleJockey

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    Just tell him it is too big of a liability in case any damages occur as a result of handloads, either to his gun, or him.
     
  4. PotatoJudge

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    Just tell him you won't reload for others to avoid the liability in case you blow up a gun again. Because four is enough :evil:.
     
  5. hk lover

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    reloading for others

    he may say its between the two of you until he has a problem with his gun and blames your reloads.im very confident in my reloads but ill not let my freedoms be harmed by someone else,ive nearly lost friends over this same situation before and its easier to set them up reloading than to take chances of something bad happening.lawyers are abundant and so is the ATF.one phone call from someone mad at you is all it takes if you take the chance
     
  6. SpecialKalltheway

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    tell him "sure, I charge 25 bucks per bullet." :D since he wanted a thousand rounds of each that will be 50K more than worth using your supplies I would say. Just remember cash up front :evil:
     
  7. jnyork

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    Good rule to stay happy and not be in big trouble: Never shoot anyone else's reloads and never reload for anyone. Never. Ever.
     
  8. 4Freedom

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    If he ends up shooting someone with your reloaded bullets, do you think you yourself will not be involved? Dunno, but I heard there is some issues with using reloads and the DA. Not sure if it is true, but just a thought. Just say ing no, won't make you sound like a jerk, unless he is a jerk. Cannot you just tell the guy to shop online at gunbroker? I was able to score a lot of good 45ACP and other types of ammo. If you search around there is still deals to be had. You said he is willing to pay a good price, sounds like if money is not an issue this guy can definately get what he needs.
     
  9. Nowhere Man

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    Be honest and tell him you don't feel comfortable loading for others....


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  10. Zach S

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    Being a car guy, I get asked to do this or that to someone's car. I play the "liability card" quite a bit to get out of it.

    Its not entirely true. The whole truth is that with a full time job on graveyard shift, wife and kid, I'm lucky to get to work on my own project car a few hours a week. Not to mention I don't wanna be responsible for screwing up a car that belongs to someone else.
     
  11. Silverado6x6

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    Myself I would prefer to know where my prints and DNA are, on my ammo and not somebody else's.

    what if he sells it to somebody that decides to go postal?
     
  12. outerlimit

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    Don't worry about being a jerk. From the sound of it, he's the jerk. Don't be a pushover.
     
  13. SCKimberFan

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    Big red flag. As Nancy Reagan says: Just say NO.
     
  14. TexasRifleman

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    Tell him it is against Federal law to manufacture and sell ammo without a license.

    Plain, simple, and true.

    Type 6 FFL is a licensed maker of ammunition and reloading components other than Armor Piercing ammunition.
     
  15. Average Joe

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    Tell him you don't reload anymore.
     
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    You could offer to teach him how to reload on his equipment using his components or else he's out of luck. If he's got plenty of money get him to buy a progressive or turret press and all the goodies we need to reload.
     
  17. Titan6

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    The best advice is to tell him he is asking you to break the law. If that does not move him off then tell him to get lost. Sounds like nothing but trouble to me.
     
  18. ThrottleJockey

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    It's probably just an ignorant and innocent request. He likely just doesn't know the rules. But I would still say no just because of the rules.
     
  19. Duke of Doubt

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    I would cite the federal prohibition and the civil liability concerns.

    The real reason I wouldn't do it is because he sounds like the grasshopper at the door of the ant.

    Besides, I was just at a gun show today, and there was defensive ammo on sale in all the calibers you mention. My local gun stores and pawn shops are stocked with ammo. He probably is one of those people who thinks the world is out of ammo when Walmart can't get enough at their prices. Well, guess what? Walmart is no longer the go to place for cheap ammo. He needs to learn this, and (gasp!) enter a pawn shop, likely for the first time in his life.
     
  20. Titan6

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    Maybe he is ignorant and innocent and maybe he isn't. Randy Weaver thought the same thing and it didn't work out so good for him.
     
  21. Huddog

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    Tell him you spoke to your attorney and the liability is too great and it is against the law.
     
  22. Suicide*Ride

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    I guess it's starting....

    I was wondering when it would come to this. Kinda like winning the lottery & all of your "old friends" showing up to help you count it.

    Kimber guy's got the bread for two high-end weapons, & not the brains to have bought food for them.

    I, like you, have been approached to provide reloads for someone who couldn't be bothered to squirrel away a little "here & there" over the yrs., or couldn't be bothered to make the investment in learning how to "roll your own".

    What really bothers me about your post -
    Makes you wonder who else thinks that way about you? :scrutiny:
     
  23. Clarence

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    I love guys like that. You never see them until they want something.
     
  24. rust collector

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    Don't.

    Now you can tell him that your lawyer says no, you cannot under any circumstances sell reloaded ammunition due to federal law and liability concerns. You can also tell him you don't have enough for your own use (at least I never met anyone who did).

    But you'll be sure to let him know when you find commercial stuff at a good price. "Nice to see you again. Wanna go bowling next Thursday with me and the boys?"
     
  25. Dark Skies

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    Personally I'd go with the 'you're asking me to break the law' angle.

    That's an argument killer right there. If he persists then he's being a jerk.

    If that sounds too goody two shoes for you to shoulder then just tell him you don't have the dies for that ammo.

    I think he's being a right spanker in expecting you to give up your time and materials just so he can shoot off your back. I wouldn't even have the nerve to ask a casual acquaintence - especially from five years back - to wear that.
     
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