ACR, ARX or AK47

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I am thinking about getting a new rifle this holiday season. I have had my eye on the ACR and the AK47. I have also been considering the Beretta ARX and the SCAR, however I think the SCAR is a bit too pricey. As of now I own a Advanced Armament SBR, a Noveske Recce, an Advanced Armament upper on an S&W M&P lower and an LWRC Six8. So I have all of the ARs I want for now, but I am interested in getting something new/different. So, I'm curious what the good people of TheHighRoad.com think. What would you guys want to buy next? That is if your budget was no more than $2,000.
 
Haven't seen an ACR yet. I have an ARX and like it, its light and looks different. I think its really clever the way you can switch it from right to left side ejection with only a bullet nose to push the ejector to the other side, every thing else is fully ambi, and you can swap the charging handle to the side you prefer without tools. Clever design.

I recommend it if you definitely don't want another AR.

For the SCAR, to me it makes the most sense in .308, but spare mags are a gouge.
 
I'd pick up the SIG MCX SBR in convertible 5.56/300 BLK IF they ever release it. Nice compact package with the side folder and 9 ish inch barrel. That is IF SIG would stop being SIG and finally releases the thing. I wouldnt waste money on the AK unless you just want a cool wall hanger.
 
The ARX is an impressive design, pretty much everything is either steel or plastic. Only the rails and safety are aluminum.

Besides being fully ambidextrous, the ARX has a very interesting dual extractor/ejector system, plus the way the bolt is controlled for feeding is ingenious.

Plus you get a quick swap barrel with a stationary piston, moving cylinder gas setup that's adjustable.

BSW
 
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You don't like the AK? Isn't it suppose to be very reliable?
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Its reliable all right. You just cant hit anything with one. Even with a cobbled on scope or good/unreliable iron sights its a 4 inch gun with good ammo. They are great wall hangers and go bang when you shoot them and if you don't care if you hit things all that much they are fun to play with.

A good AR is reliable too and you can hit things with them . AR's got a bad reputation from guns like I had in Basic training that had been over shot and over cleaned to death. Modern AR-15's are reliable and accurate.
 
AKs are not as bad as yugorpk makes them out to be. I had a Romanian that I used to shoot standing with iron sights and wolf ammo and hit a 300m steel Ivan all day. They are more than accurate enough for their designed purpose. You could spend $1000 on a good AK and have $1000 in ammo to enjoy with it.
 
Enough of the propagation of the AK only being min of barn. Some are more accurate than others, just like some ARs are more reliable than others. This will only lead to a fight that is off topic from what the OP is asking. Any further on this will lead to posts being deleted. Please don't derail someone else's thread.
 
Out of your given selections I'd go AK, but the Tavor, AUG, and FAL are all neat guns too.
 
I love my cheapo wasr! Its accurate enough for me, and it has surely been reliable. After adding a Tapco 6 position adjustable stock, it fits me, too! That was my only complaint about it (besides a mag release that was terrible, but thats fixed, too)... AKs are made for smaller statured people I think.

I'll toss in another suggestion for the FAL. If you have never handled or run one, you really should. If I could only have one semi auto 308, the FAL would be it.
But, except for seeing pictures, I have no experience with the others on your list.
 
AK or Tavor for sure. Both of them have a bright future of support in the american market. They are however not target guns, and if you plan on shooting them at a 100 yard range, they will disappoint when compared to an AR.
 
I'll agree that it's silly easy to get an AR to shoot tiny groups. The Tavor is about a 2MOA rifle with the ammo I've tried. 2MOA isn't fantastic, but it's enough for head shots out to 200 yards or so.

The Tavor design is based off the AK, with much better ergonomics. IWI's design work to make the Tavor simpler than an AK (from the troop's perspective) is pretty amazing.

BSW
 
In reality, most AR's are 2 MOA rifles also. Yes, you can certainly do better, but most inexpensive AR's are NOT target rifles. The ergonomics and lower recoil of the 223 also make AR's easier to shoot accurately. Better triggers help a lot.

IMO, most AR's will do 2-3 MOA or better depending on the barrel/rifle/shooter. AK's typically will do 3-5 MOA though some are worse (6-8 MOA). The "bad" AK's are still effective man stoppers, but not much fun for shooting paper.

I would like to find a Sig 556R in 7.62X39. Never shot one though.

I would be curious about the accuracy potential of the AR's in 7.62X39. What are people seeing with their guns?
 
I like my WASR AK for how much I paid $450.00. Maybe for $2000.00 SBR a Draco or buy a Krink with some nice ghost sights and Kobra red dot. Zastava has some good affordable offerings too. There could be money left over for a few cases of Golden Tiger and some extra bakelite mags. Either way with a $2,000 budget your bound to get some cool stuff.
 
CMMG "Mutant"....
https://www.cmmginc.com/product-category/rifles/7-62x39/

mk47_mutant.jpg


It has kind of the best of both the AK47 and AR15 worlds ... at least to me.

AK mags, AR15 parts and accessories for most of it, a MUCH better bolt assm.

And it will shoot better then most all AK47's....

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/12/foghorn/gun-review-cmmg-mk47-mutant-ar-15-7-62x39/

http://www.rifleshootermag.com/reviews/cmmg-mk47-mutant-review/
 
What about a VZ-58?

Swapped out the beaver barf furniture on my buddy's VZ-2008 for the FAB defense furniture this morning. It's a really sweet handling rifle now.

A VZ-58 from CZ USA will be a lot better than a modified VZ-2008 from Century.

Really fantastic rifles.
 
Given that you are interested in something different, I'd consider a bullpup. Tavor or AUG would be very neat to add to the collection. I think all the others are likely great guns, but I don't think they'd seem that different in action from the rest of your collection.
 
Personally, I'd pick the AK option. Arsenal supposedly makes nice ones that would be within your budget. You should also have plenty left to pick up some mags and ammo.

The WASR AK is a bit rough, but they are typically reliable. That'd leave you a lot more to put toward mags, ammo, etc.
 
Century Arms C39v2. Sells for about $1000 and is an American made AK47.

What's not to like about that?
 
I like the suggestions of something different like an AUG, Tavor, or a DSA FAL. All of them can be had for under $2,000 and are definitely not another AR derivative.
 
What kind of shooting are you interested in?

Different rifles have different strengths and weaknesses.

BSW
 
I'm an AK guy, so based on your suggestions I'd suggest leaning in that direction. However, there certainly are other options if you're just looking for something different. Bunch of great suggestions so far. FAL should definitely be considered. Maybe the Steyr AUG.

Are you only considering modern military-style rifles? What about classics like the M1 Garand or '03 Springfield?
 
out of what youve listed, id go AK as well, its going to be much easier to source parts for, find accessories for, and will be more reliable than any of the rest.. if you get one of the 5.56 AKs you'll get about the same accuracy as a milspec AR

whats NOT on that list that you could also consider is the steyr AUG A3 M1 and the sig 556
 
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