http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/01/17000-linux-powered-rifle-brings-auto-aim-to-the-real-world/
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allaroundhunter
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Look at the top left corner, that thing even gets wi-fi!
In all seriousness, I think it's pretty cool, but it does nothing really to help me and there are some drawbacks. There were several threads on this exact thing a couple months ago, I believe, but I could be confusing with another forum and my apologies if I am mistaken
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In all seriousness, I think it's pretty cool, but it does nothing really to help me and there are some drawbacks. There were several threads on this exact thing a couple months ago, I believe, but I could be confusing with another forum and my apologies if I am mistaken
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Burris has a scope similiar to this. Not quite as advanced. It's called the "Eliminator". If used for hunting I think it borders on cheating. But I'm also a bowhunter only, for big game. But I must admit, the technology is pretty amazing.
Well, the scope is integrated with the rifle. You tag your target, and when you get the perfect lineup to make the shot, the software fires the gun. Basically takes out as much of the human element of making the shot as possible without having this thing on a mechanical rest.
There's also been a few threads on this particular piece of hardware. Its neat stuff and I think a good taste of things to come as far as future firearms go.
There's also been a few threads on this particular piece of hardware. Its neat stuff and I think a good taste of things to come as far as future firearms go.
tyeo098
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Looks like Master Chiefs HUD from Halo
fanchisimo
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I see if this thing really does have WiFi, a guy will set up a few of these with mechanical rests around the woods and he just sits in his house with a computer screen open monitoring several "sentry" rifles. If a deer or whatever critter shows up, he just shoots from his recliner and then goes to pic up his game. Yeah, total cheating. Lol.
yep, we have had dozen threads on this in rifle country.
definitely a neat tool, but it'll play out like chess. took a long time for programs to beat human experts but it's unlikely a human could compete now.
the best traditional shooters will beat someone using that device for many years to come. but someday, it will be better
definitely a neat tool, but it'll play out like chess. took a long time for programs to beat human experts but it's unlikely a human could compete now.
the best traditional shooters will beat someone using that device for many years to come. but someday, it will be better
WardenWolf
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As I understand, any electrically actuated trigger on a semi-automatic rifle is considered a machine gun by the ATF. I think this would qualify so, even though they showed it on an AR, it would be illegal to put it on any semi-automatic rifle.
Sam Cade
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The ATF also says that shoelaces are machine guns.
Electronic triggers are available on some target pistols.
http://www.pardiniguns.com/store/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=5&products_id=11
One pull.One shot. Legal.
TurtlePhish
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Electrically actuated triggers are fine as long as they only fire semi-auto.
jerkface11
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The gun doesn't activate the trigger. It raises the trigger pull to like 20 pounds then when on target it lowers it to ounces. So you pretty much can't pull the trigger until the gun lets you.
shinyroks
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neat toy, but I'm with Jim. 15k is a bit of a stretch to justify. Besides, doesn't the joy of hunting come from you taking the shot?
I thought the trigger was merely blocked electronically, so you put pressure on the trigger, and when brought on target the "block/safety" was released, and you completed the trigger pull. Perhaps I'm wrong...
EDIT: I knew I shouldn't pull up several threads and then read them at a later time... beaten by jerkface111
EDIT: I knew I shouldn't pull up several threads and then read them at a later time... beaten by jerkface111
Call Barry, that technology will solve our gun violence problems. We aren't going to take your guns, we're just going to retrofit them with tech than only allows you to shoot at authorized targets!
jerkface11
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Put this on a full auto then mark a dozen targets hold down the trigger and wave it around.
Sorry for the repost - I don't frequent rifle country.
As far as application, I agree it would be quite boring for civilians (in addition to costing a fortune), like using one of the google cars on the race track. As far as the government though, it seems like it would be a good way to extend the long distance shooting ability to non-sniper school trained infantry (though they mentioned wanting to not focus on military applications for the time being).
This would seem to be the logical extension
jerkface11
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If they want to sell it they'll need to allow custom ballistics profiles. Not just the one for the ammo they sell. Then you might see some well off prairie dog hunters using one.
Actually this setup does pull the trigger for you. Once you designate a target, you pull the trigger to give it the software the "shoot" command. Once you get the perfect alignment the target to make the shot, it completes the fire command and fires the round at the right moment to hit the target with a very high degree of accuracy.
Also, the company at this time has no plans to make this thing for any other rifle. As they stated the scope and the rifle are all integrated into one system. You can't put this scope on an other rifle without basically rebuilding the rifle from the ground up to interface with this thing. It looks like a bolt action from the outside, but under the hood its a whole different animal.
The software that processes the images is also surprisingly capable. If you designate a walking game animal, it will track that spot on the animal and accurately put a round in that spot. Not going to work 100% of the time, but it does work and is part of the system already.
Also, the company at this time has no plans to make this thing for any other rifle. As they stated the scope and the rifle are all integrated into one system. You can't put this scope on an other rifle without basically rebuilding the rifle from the ground up to interface with this thing. It looks like a bolt action from the outside, but under the hood its a whole different animal.
The software that processes the images is also surprisingly capable. If you designate a walking game animal, it will track that spot on the animal and accurately put a round in that spot. Not going to work 100% of the time, but it does work and is part of the system already.
jerkface11
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It says right in the article that it doesn't pull the trigger. It releases it when you're aimed at the right place. You pull the trigger it just lets you.
... As far as the government though, it seems like it would be a good way to extend the long distance shooting ability to non-sniper school trained infantry (though they mentioned wanting to not focus on military applications for the time being).
This would seem to be the logical extension
Good point. It costs a lot more than $15,000 to train a sniper.
jerkface11
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Most of the sniper training isn't about shooting though.
Outlaw Man
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I actually got to "fire" the interactive one they had at SHOT. You do pull the trigger and hold it, and the gun releases it when you are on target.
All in all, it was pretty neat. It really bothered me that it didn't seem like you had to have the gun on target for any length of time. To my mind, it seems like you could be sweeping across the target fairly quickly and move the barrel off target before the bullet left. Maybe they have that part figured out, but they were pretty busy when I was there, so I didn't ask. I don't know anyone that has that kind of cash to drop on one, anyway.
I definitely like the overall concept, though.
All in all, it was pretty neat. It really bothered me that it didn't seem like you had to have the gun on target for any length of time. To my mind, it seems like you could be sweeping across the target fairly quickly and move the barrel off target before the bullet left. Maybe they have that part figured out, but they were pretty busy when I was there, so I didn't ask. I don't know anyone that has that kind of cash to drop on one, anyway.
I definitely like the overall concept, though.
jerkface11
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I really do think that if they got it to work on a machinegun they could get the military to buy them.
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