Riomouse911
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Oh, I like the light contour barrel on the larger N frames, too. My 4” 629 Mountain Gun and 6.5” 624. (Posted earlier today in another thread.)
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After S&W "Mountain Gun", 41 Magnum, 44 Magnum, 45 Colt, it's the time for the next level; "Outdoorsman" with slim 6.5" barrel
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Miami_JBT
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One sold in 2020 at Rock Island Auction for $1,265.
It was number 7 out of 176. The serial number was BBR0007. The last three digits are the production number in the run. So for example, BBR0176 would be the 176th gun in the run. The blued models had a similar serial number code with a different letter code.
Mine is in the mid 40s.
Pat Riot
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For kicks I went on to Gun Broker and did a search for an S&W .45 Colt “Mountain Gun” and sure enough I found one. No, I won’t be bidding on it.
EDIT: My apologies. I didn’t realize the auction was close to ending when I posted this.
EDIT: My apologies. I didn’t realize the auction was close to ending when I posted this.
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The top two are a Model 1950 and a Model 28-2. The bottom two are both Model 25-2s. All four are chambered for the 45 ACP. (I built the Model 28-2 long before the Mountain series came out).
My load of preference is the SAECO 453 over a hardball dose of powder. (Shown on the left). The middle bullet is the BD45 and the right hand bullet is the Arsenal 45-250 Wadcutter.
When launched at +/- 850 fps, the SAECO is a show stopper. I am testing the other two.
Kevin
jag1954
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Who's doing the work for you? This my Model 25 with the cylinder machined to accept .45ACP with moon clips.
Pat Riot
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I have considered doing this.
How much does this cost?
How do they deal with the ejector rod - do they shorten it?
OR - Do they not need to change the ejector assembly at all?
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unspellable
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Any idea on how many 29-9s in blue were made?
halfmoonclip
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Wanted a .44 Mag Mountain Gun ever since seeing the pictures in the National Geographic (!) of the Norwegians skiing to the North Pole. They were stalked for two days by a Polar Bear, then one of them killed it with a Mountain Gun, while the other took pictures. Talk about brass balls....!
Found one at a gunshow, really do like it. I've loaded down for it, not many Polar Bears locally. Really would like a .45 Colt MG in stainless, but did acquire a 25-15. Both now wear a fiber optic front sight.
Moon
Found one at a gunshow, really do like it. I've loaded down for it, not many Polar Bears locally. Really would like a .45 Colt MG in stainless, but did acquire a 25-15. Both now wear a fiber optic front sight.
Moon
Thank you for posting that link. Great article.
I purchased a 57 Mountain Gun with the Ahrends grips from Buds Gunshop in '09 or '10 on closeout. Price was $620
Will post some pics later. It is a great revolver. I don't think I will ever part with it. But having said that, it is not something you want to lug around all day. When it is loaded, that N frame is porky!
I purchased a 57 Mountain Gun with the Ahrends grips from Buds Gunshop in '09 or '10 on closeout. Price was $620
Will post some pics later. It is a great revolver. I don't think I will ever part with it. But having said that, it is not something you want to lug around all day. When it is loaded, that N frame is porky!
Charlie98
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True story! A good holster helps, but at the end of the day... it's a lot of revolver.
jag1954
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No, the ejector assembly is not changed. If I'm not mistaken, everything all in including the machining of the cylinder, the moon clips and shipping was $225.00.
True enough! However, for outdoorsman, who could face something large, nasty and aggressive, with big, sharp teeth and claws, the only way out of tight spot is a good chunk of metal, 265 grains and up, lunched from 41 or larger bore, at least 1100 fps, see first post here https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...un-hunting-another-view.903836/#post-12255542 . Unfortunately, in order to do that, revolver has to have certain size and weight, no free lunch. This is especially critical when follow up shots are required, and if I want to save my skin, I will make sure that at least 3 or 4 bullets are placed in the right place. Very light revolver will recoil too much, painfully pound the hand, and with barrel facing the moon or even face of the shooter, follow up shots will be very difficult to fire, if shooter is lucky to still hold revolver in his hand(s).
In my area we have true wild boars, they could go up to 250 kg (550 pounds), and if wounded, if any hunter is near by, they will attack immediately. A friend was chased by wounded boar, fired several shots 9x19 from CZ 75, and when he saw that boar didn't go down, but turned toward him (my friend), he (luckily) jumped on large boulder. Boar circled around, friend finished a whole clip (16-17) rounds, and only after that boar collapsed. I asked him how many times he thinks boar was hit, he said about half of all shots he fired. Well, he agreed large caliber revolver is a better choice. Light CZ 75 just couldn't do it.
BTW, going other, opposite way, toward big, heavy handgun for a caliber, doesn't cut mustard also. One of the first handguns I purchased was 357 Magnum Bisley with 7.5" barrel. Realizing my mistake, I sold it soon and purchased 41 Magnum Bisley, blue, the best decision I made regarding handguns, The worst one was when I sold that 41 Magnum Bisley, expecting to purchase same revolver in stainless. And on the end I ended up with no 41 Magnum Bisley. Live and learn...
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Charlie98
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I've gotten away from long-barreled revolvers... they are just not very handy as a holster weapon.
That's one of the reasons I I'm on the fence about my 58... I DO carry it when I think the .45ACP might be marginal. A 4" .41 N-frame is almost the ideal combination...
One of my grail guns was the Bisley in .41MAG... and I finally found one on GunBroker when they released the last run of them. Mine was a 5.5" Stainless Bisley, but was so horribly assembled I didn't know where to start with it... and sold it in a fit. What I really want is a .41 Redhawk... or if the stars align... a .41 Mountain Gun, although I find that unlikely.
Riomouse911
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I love the 5” to 5.5” barrel length, but finding them is never easy. I seem to find 6”-6.5” (or longer) guns all the time, I guess guys hang onto those perfect packing-trail sized guns a lot more.
I really like the .41 for trail use. I have .44’s, but the .41 is a nice compromise between power and recoil. I just wish I didn’t have to take out a second mortgage to pick up a 57/657 Mountain Gun, one would be a nice addition to the stable. (An L frame .41 like the model 69 would be great, too!)
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WisBorn
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I vote for Smith and Wesson to add a L frame size 41mag to its line up!!!I love the 5” to 5.5” barrel length, but finding them is never easy. I seem to find 6”-6.5” (or longer) guns all the time, I guess guys hang onto those perfect packing-trail sized guns a lot more.
I really like the .41 for trail use. I have .44’s, but the .41 is a nice compromise between power and recoil. I just wish I didn’t have to take out a second mortgage to pick up a 57/657 Mountain Gun, one would be a nice addition to the stable. (An L frame .41 like the model 69 would be great, too!)
Stay safe.
I see a lot of folks echo about the 5” N frame being good. I have a 5” Heavy Duty and they are correct, just as Skeeter wrote, the 5” N frame in 36 caliber is about as good as it gets, in 36 caliber. Once you start cutting bigger holes in the cylinder and barrel, the balance shifts and to me, is less than ideal. And that 5” barrel is not fun sitting down unless you are on a very firm chair, ie, no cushion. For me, in anything above 36 caliber, the 4” N frame is the top pick for a belt revolver. My range revolvers have 5 1/2, 6 or 6 1/2 inch barrels and go out to the range in a range box.
As always, they usually have more than one horse in a race so everyone gets a choice.
Kevin
As always, they usually have more than one horse in a race so everyone gets a choice.
Kevin
I use to have 5" M27, very nice revolver, barrel was set back so light between barrel and cylinder was barely visible, gap must be less than .002". However, IMO, unless somebody wants to go 357 "Nuclear", M586/686 with 5" barrel and half under lug is better choice. Just my .2 cents.
Charlie98
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Well... there you go, getting me all hopeful, again. I understand Christmas is the time of miracles, but I don't think S&W is EVER going to release a .41 L-frame...
Truthfully, I wouldn't care what version it was... 5-shot .41MAG, or 6-shot .41SPC. That is one pistol I would hunt down .41SPC brass for....
Riomouse911
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The .41 Special is a pretty cool wildcat. I load rounds for my Model 57 4” that make it a dream to shoot.
I bought a 4” GP-100 with the desire to see it transformed from a .357 to a 6-shot .41 Spl. The only person who would convert it said a .41 would be 5-shot only, which isn’t enough of a difference to my 5- shot 3” GP .44 Spl. to justify the $$$.
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I bought a 4” GP-100 with the desire to see it transformed from a .357 to a 6-shot .41 Spl. The only person who would convert it said a .41 would be 5-shot only, which isn’t enough of a difference to my 5- shot 3” GP .44 Spl. to justify the $$$.
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unspellable
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What's the point of the 41 Special? No guns chambered for it that I know of. Easy to crank up lite loads in the 41 Mag,
sparkyv
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I like the cut of your jib, sir.
CraigC
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The .41Spl is a wildcat typically chambered in .357 sized guns. Originally rechambered L-frames, GP's and Colt SAA's, whereas .41Mag's are usually .44Mag sized guns.
Brian Pearce wrote article about quite formidable load for 45 AR. If I am not mistaken, in Handloader Magazine - August 2008 - Issue #254. The load I am talking about is using Lyman 454424 and 2400 powder, making about 1040 fps. WARNING: this load is for late models S&W M25 only. Earlier revolvers in 45 AR are not strong enough for noted load.
Also, if somebody has Ruger Blackhawk 45 convertible, same load could be made using 45 Cowboy Special brass, and fired in 45 ACP cylinder. I might be wrong, but to be on safe side, that load I would use in large frame NMBH only!
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