Airsoft OUCH THEY HURT!!

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GoBrush said:
I hate to put a crimp on the Airsoft market (ya right) but I just do not think these make good toys (or for that matter neither do paint ball guns) In my humble opinion it would be better to buy your kid a BB Gun and teach them real gun rules.

Good responses even though my original quote sounds like I may have been blaming the "airsoft" I am not, I am blaming bad parenting. I guess I should have said I think a BB Gun would be a better way to teach gun rules and habits. I just dont think an 8 year old with zero gun training is ready for force on force with out learning basic gun safety and respects whatever it is his parents have put into his hands.
 
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280PLUS said:
Just recently I found myself literally in the middle of 3 guys (not kids) having a little airsoft war out in a parking lot behind the reaturant I was going into. When I saw the guns at first, I damn near began reaching for mine. Except it ain't no airsoft. I just walked on without saying anything because until I read this I thought they were virtually harmless. Should there be a next time, I'll be speaking up.

There would have been three young men needing new drawers if I'd walked out into that, UNLESS I had happened to notice the little orange frontpiece. People who "play" at gun battles need to do it somewhere where they won't be mistaken for the real thing and die as a result. I can just see the headline in the making..... :cuss:

Springmom
 
They hurt. I've been seriously shot up with paintballs and airsoft in professional FOF and they sting and can draw blood.

A parent who lets a kid play with such in an unsupervised fashion or with proper instruction is stupid.
 
There would have been three young men needing new drawers if I'd walked out into that, UNLESS I had happened to notice the little orange frontpiece.
It was a close one. Honestly, I don't remember seeing orange muzzles. All I saw was 1911 looking guns that came out of nowhere but they were just going "tick, tick, tick" when they started pulling the triggers. One had rushed his friend and was shooting him point blank. LIke I said earlier, I thought they were more like "nerf" guns and harmless. But I can see now how an accidental shooting could occur under those circumstances. It was literally a split second decision whether to pull my weapon or not. Fortunately for all concerned, I made the right choice.
 
colt.45 said:
they dont even resemble guns and there is no possible way to make them lethal. i play paint and it is fun, if you wear the goggles it doesnt even hurt. and if you think it teaches bad safety, it can but only to small children.

Paintballs not lethal? If you got shot in the temple by a paintball, there's a good chance you could die from it. Getting hit with a plastic bb hurts alot less than a paintball. Lets not forget about freezing paintballs.

Dude, please do some research on this matter.
 
they dont even resemble guns and there is no possible way to make them lethal. i play paint and it is fun, if you wear the goggles it doesnt even hurt. and if you think it teaches bad safety, it can but only to small children.

I play both, and would much rather get hit by an airsoft pellet than a paintball. Airsoft stings for a bit, maybe draws a little blood (no more than I do when I test for glucose), and might leave a welt. Paintballs got a LOT more mass to them, coming out at the same speed. They leave a MUCH bigger bruise. I like taking head hits with paintballs, as the mask takes the hit and not me.

As for idiots playing in public, or shooting bystanders, they are dumb. But no more cause for legislation against airsoft than gangbangers shooting rival members with real guns should call for legislation against real guns.

As for shooting people with airsoft guns, if the kid can't tell the difference between an airsoft gun and a real gun, they shouldn't be playing. But most kids can.
 
my little neighbors were playing airsoft today. i brought out my "saturday night special" .25 auto airsoft gun and had a battle. harmless fun.
 
Yeah airsoft hurts, but for people around my age (15) it's the best we can do. We can't just go get a real gun, ammo, and go to the range. For me, I can't do any of that. In California I can't get a gun for another 2 1/4 years. So until then, airsoft it is. Yeah I have the battles and yeah there is a right way to do it. Just some people don't do it right, just like real guns. Does that mean airsoft manufacturing companies should be shut down? That is for you to decide, but I say no. Maybe they're not as good as real guns but they're the best I've got access to and you can shoot them in a house for target practice or something like that. They're nice collectibles too. But don't make it sound like it's exactly the same as a real gun. When I go hunting with my dad I don't load up the 12 gauge, ask my dad if he wants to play and shoot him. WE KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.

Children should always be assumed to be irresponsible until proven otherwise.
Who is to say adults shouldn't be treated the same way? We've seen and heard what some of you do. Not much better. Worse if you ask me.
 
ka50 said:
local pukes? have airsoft battles? ...


most automatic electrical guns (full auto airsofts) have about 300fps. A lot of people actually have MilSim airsoft battles and tournaments, like paintball, did you know that?

i do repairs/upgrades for a friend who has an airsoft store...
hopup kits are available for the highend guns...
600-900 fps with .20gram is easily attainable...
 
can not imagine shooting someone when I was 8 , It is a fact that my Mom would make sure that did not happen again. Parents just do not handle things the way they did back then, I think we need to go back in time when it comes to raising kids.
 
Than my parents must have been horrible :rolleyes:

Lets see, around when I was 8 or 9, my two younger brothers (7, and 5) and I all got six shooter rubber band guns. The package says do not shoot at people, what was the first thing we did? We shot each other..... That was in addition to the large armory of dart guns, nerf guns, water guns, and disk shooters we all had. When I was 9 I got a Crossman 76 bb gun. There were VERY strict rules about that. It was a gun and to be treated as one. We learned very early about treating REAL guns as REAL. .22s, bb guns, and even our small compound bow.

However all toy guns, any brother or friend was fare game at any time. However you NEVER shot parents. Don't know what would have happened if we did. It just never happened.

Oh and now 10 years later my 5 year old brother from China is following in are foot steps and has a head start with all of our toy guns. He is just capable enough right now to load up the six shooter rubber band guns and shoot us. Last year he had are full auto foam disk shooters. And is just vicious sword fighter ;)

edited for grammer and spelling.....
 
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HD said:
i do repairs/upgrades for a friend who has an airsoft store...
hopup kits are available for the highend guns...
600-900 fps with .20gram is easily attainable...

Hopup does not increase velocity.
 
I've taken point blank with these things, they dont hurt as much as paintball guns... especially when paint ruins perfectly well maintained gear *Cough* OP: Last Conquest *Cough*

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300fps with a .29(considerably weak for such a rifle), looks amazingly realistic until you realize the magwell is 4inches off... my field's general engagement distance for a sniper rifle is approx 100ft+ and power limit on bolt action is 500 w/ .2 (highly inaccurate measurement) I tend to go by the 2.3j energy measurement with .29g ammo

TexasSIGman said:
2 of Armotech's newest paintball guns. Nah, don't look anything like real guns at all do they.......
:barf: Throw a hopper on, it'll kill your daydreaming

280PLUS said:
I've heard of people polishing down glass marbles untill they fit into their paintball gun. That would make them Darn near lethal.
hearsay, havent seen it, first time I heard of it.... and very funny to me; However I've seen a dumb kid cut himself with a real kabar on a plastic m16
 
eab said:
Than my parents must of been horrible :rolleyes:

Lets see, around when I was 8 or 9 me, and my two younger brothers (7, and 5) all got six shooter rubber band guns. The package says, do not shoot at people,what was the first thing we did? We shot each other..... That was in adation to the large armory of dart guns, nerf guns, water guns, and disk shooters we all had. However when I was 9 I got a crossman 76 bb gun. There were VERY strict rules about that. It was a gun and to be treated as one. We learned very early about treating REAL guns as REAL. .22s, bb guns, and even our small compound bow.

However all toy guns, any brother or friend was fare game at any time. However you NEVER shot parents. Don't know what would have happend if we did. It just never happened.

Oh and now 10 years later my 5 year old brother from China is following in are foot steps and has a head start with all of our toy guns. He is just cabable enough right now to load up the six shooter rubber band guns and shoot us. Last year he had are full auto foam disk shooters. And is just vicious sword fighter ;)

Interresting point, however I found it hard to read. I'm not very anal about this sort of thing but you really copped that one up. :neener:

I know this is completely off topic, and I apologize, but I think we all know the importance of grammar. Especially in the respect department.

*edit* Your post isn't that bad upon second review.

-Dev
 
Why a BB gun first?

I bought one of these for my daughters to learn proper gun handling. I opted for an airsoft in stead of a bb gun because it is safer and can be fired in the garage when it's raining (like right now). I have taught them not to point ANY gun at people. Why does it take a bb gun to teach this or any rule about gun safety, an airsoft is a great tool for this instruction. This gun is used only under my supervision, I am teaching them to treat even an airsoft with the respect all guns should receive. They don’t know any different, nor should they. IT IS A GUN!

When I was a local puke (20 years ago) we "played army" with bb guns. Great fun until someone forgot the one pump rule, and my cousin had to have surgery to remove a bb from his hand. We had plenty of instruction on "never point a gun at a person" and DON'T PLAY ARMY WITH YOUR BB GUNS, but we refused to listen. We hid the fact that we were shooting each other with bb guns, until the above incident. Needless to say it was the last time we “played army”. If protecting kids from themselves is important (and it is) then why not find tools that are safer just in case they decide to use their own judgment and not the sage counsel of their parents.
 
I have heard of police officers using Airsoft for practice and training and it seems logical. In many ways good airsoft type guns are better than BB guns for this sort of training. They much more closely mimic the function of a real gun than many BB guns. I.e. replacable magazines etc. in handguns.
 
If you think an airsoft gun hurts, don't ever stub your toe.

Oh, and the difference between an 8 year old kid and an adult, is that an adult does not use an airsoft gun on anyone not wearing eye protection.

If the kid is bad enough to deserve that, he's bad enough to get a beating. If his parents object, they deserve a beating.

S/F

Farnham
 
I use cheap airsoft for indoor practice, Force on force training and to teach my kids goo gun safety. I would much rather they fire a less lethal/injuring plastic bb than a steel bb. Its all in the application and supervision. My kids have to follow all gun safety rules and have safety glasses on to get to shoot em at all.
 
ka50 said:
Hopup does not increase velocity.

i know that , but the term has a dual useage here in kali... means spinup and powerup as well...
 
Farnham said:
If you think an airsoft gun hurts, don't ever stub your toe.

Well... that hurts too. There are different levels of airsoft guns too, from $2 garbage things to $200 nice ones. Some do indeed carry a bit of a sting.

Farnham said:
Oh, and the difference between an 8 year old kid and an adult, is that an adult does not use an airsoft gun on anyone not wearing eye protection.

Well a responsible adult doesn't. Unfortunately there are too many adults out there who are not and frankly should not have children. Whether or not they give them airsoft guns.

Farnham said:
If the kid is bad enough to deserve that, he's bad enough to get a beating. If his parents object, they deserve a beating.

While I tend to agree with your sentiment here that really is the parents job. In the world we live in if the parents object they have another term for that "Assault and Battery on a Child" and frankly I am not going to risk loosing my Carry Permit or even my right to own a firearm over someone’s out of control kids. It sucks but this is the world we live in and you know you'd be made out to be a child beater by the press and the DA. Even if the kid desperately needed a beating.
 
I remember when I wanted to test the "ouch" factor of an Airsoft gun out. They really hurt!! I (literally) shot myself in the foot just to see how much it would hurt. I have a high pain tolerance and I was just about stunned by the amount of pain that one of the little 6mm/.24 caliber, .12g BBs can bring.
 
When I was a kid if I'd done that I would probably have been beaten. Not spanked or told to sit in a corner or go with out desert, beaten.

I have been buttstroked unconscience for being unsafe where men were shooting.

What you did might teach him or he'll kill himself or someone else.

GoBrush said:
We went to my Brother InLaws for Christmas and his 8 year old boy shot me about 6 times in the stomach (it was an auto). TICKED ME OFF I took it from the little puke and unloaded on him. He said ouch that hurts I said it hurt just as bad when he shot me with the ???? thing. (I probably should have just taken it away and givin it to his mom and dad and let them punish the puke)
 
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