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Al Franken Blinks on AWB

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Alaska444, Jan 17, 2013.

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  1. TheDaywalkersDad

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    If you call getting elected through voter fraud, "Winning."
     
  2. Skylerbone

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    The bane of a party system is that from the very beginning there have been disagreement on interpretation of our Constitution. They have lead to an overwhelming number of subsequent laws that we now see as commonly accepted and irreversible. We see these entitlements as having the effect of law while knowing they are unlawful yet many still champion the cause of "social justice" or the mistaken belief that dependence creates responsibility. Traditional belief holds that within a society large enough for division of labor that all persons hold a vital role in contributing to their own betterment and, as an extension, to their society's betterment. Any member who deliberately contributes nothing while deliberately detracting from fellow Citizens does so without my blessing. I hold that fish are bountiful while certain politicians seeking to extort power (control) and money hold that the fish I catch belong to society and must be shared and shared alike. That I must give a man a fish every day while he refuses to fish is preposterous. Gun control, healthcare takeover, the global warming hoax, all are part of an agenda of societal control. Please don't confuse such nefarious efforts with helping others, especially given the track record of all such efforts.
     
  3. clutch

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    Since I don't think this will make it through the house, I'd want Franken to vote his conscious and Minnesotans decide how to react to that. I have more respect for those that declare then those that sit the fence. It eliminates uncertainty from the equation.
     
  4. HKGuns

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    Then you are beyond hope for numerous reasons. I can't believe you'd even admit that on this forum.
     
  5. barnbwt

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    So you turn to a party actively trying to dismantle a constitutionally enumerated right? Neither the R's or D's are doing very well at...well, pretty much anything at this point. But one of them is right now encouraging external interference in local elections, implementing unconstitutional statutes that are themselves criminally ill-written, and mounting the largest example of blatant state-run propaganda I've seen in my life (re-tooling the Prez's reelection campaign to promote his policy initiatives while he's in office).

    If you can't bring yourself to vote for the lesser of two evils, then vote for the lesser of three (or four). At least you won't be supporting the most immediate threat to (again) a right specifically delineated in the fundament of our system of government.

    TCB

    *the specific topics are irrelevant and distracting from the immediate threat to the 2nd Amendment. Suffice it to say neither topic mentioned by the poster is a Constitutionally protected right that would have parity with the 2nd
     
  6. holdencm9

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    I was going to say something along these lines. Although, "former SNL cast member" isn't exactly a regular person either. Sadly the days of joe shmoe citizens deciding to run for elected office are probably behind us, it's a world of professional career politicians now. You either have to be a celebrity, or make it a lifelong career pursuit.
     
  7. Carl N. Brown

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    What do professional, life long politicians know about the real lives of real people, or even how the real world works? No wonder we have so many useless, wasteful, counterproductive laws and policies.

    The majority of criminals get guns from smugglars, fences, burglars, fellow criminals, "unregulatable sources" in "hard to control ways" according to the NIJ felon survey.

    The vast majority of gun owners are lawabiding citizen who acquire guns legally.

    So, the answer to gun crime and gun violence is to target the lawabiding and pile restrictions on legal sources.

    We who live in the real world see that policy as insane and disconnected from reality. Party ideologues see it as insync with the party platform.
     
  8. Tim the student

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    And yet I trust a career politician less than I do an actor.
     
  9. PT92

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    Pick your poison...
     
  10. taliv

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    devolving into R vs D and going nowhere...
     
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