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I feel your pain. I was "lucky" and the first gun I bought, a Glock, has performed flawlessly. Every single other firearm I own, except a nice SKS, has crapped out on me in some way or another, even ones I bought brand new.

I'm now starting to realize that this is, sadly, normal. Most firearms, it seems, require at least some tweaking to get them in dependable working order. I even had to take a dremel to a semi-auto shotgun to get it to feed properly, else it would jam the shot-shell into the bottom feed ramp and cut the shell up pretty badly.

I research every firearm before I buy it, and that hasn't saved me from problems. If you don't like the idea of fiddling with your firearms yourself, you may want to seek out a reputable gunsmith in your area.

Yet another option is to search the 'net and sites like these for your gun's model and the type of problem - Rugers, for example, seem to suffer from poor-quality extractors, and aftermarket extractors seem to cure many ills for a pittance.
 
For the AK, take the bolt apart and clean out the cosmoline around the extractor.

After that it should grip casings without having to force it or let it slam home.

Edit: As for the bad magazines, simply buy some replacements.
 
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for the mod 60 problem, but i think someone allready may have hit on it, with the throat replacement kit. Also you may wanna check your ejector spring, which is a long end of a curled spring, that goes straight ahead, and slightly up, into the fee/eject channel. if it is too low in the channel, or not bent inward enough toward the center of the channel to eject a fired case, this will cause all kinda problems. just take some needle nose, and bend it in towards the center of the channel more, and slightly more up.
 
Ruger Mark III

I have a Mark II that jams with every kind of ammo I have tried, except CCI. Never had a problem with any CCI ammo. My feed ramp was polished when the gun was refinished, but still jams with anything but CCI.
Fortunately, I like CCI ammo best, so it doesn't bother me. Try it. :)
 
Marlin model 60 - try high velocity ammo, some .22 autloaders require it for reliable operation.
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Same with Ruger. My Ruger 22/45 jams constantly with low-powered Wolf Match Target. Feed it some cheap remington bulk-pack stuff and it runs like a clock (or glock).

On the other hand, the Wolf ammo is quiet and accurate.

Regards.
 
I bought a pawn-shop 1981 manufactured Marlin 60 for $50. I took it shooting and it jammed every two or three shots. I cleaned it up and it still won't cycle without problems. There might be something wrong with the feed ramp, as each jammed cartridge just kind of gets crushed in the middle by the bolt instead of chambering properly. Dang it!
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I'm not too familiar with the model 60 but the first thing I would do is to detail strip and clean the rifle. I'd go after the whole thing with a mix of Simple Green and hot water and a varitey of toothbrushes and q-tips. Make sure you clean the ammo tube out as well (and check the feed spring) because if it isn't pushing the round into the action that can cause a lot of odd problems. Dry it all out and lube the hell out of it with the spray type of Breakfree, dry off the excess and see how it runs. Also as others have said, try different ammo because most .22 are fussy (CCI Blazer is often a good choice).

I bought a NIB WASR-10 at a gun show, and half of the time I try to chamber a round the bolt handle refuses to close all the way and stays open about half of an inch. Also, one of the two magazines it came with is defective, as the magazine body is too narrow near the bottom and causes the follower to get stuck. I thought AKs were supposed to be reliable! Dang it!
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Can't help with this one, sorry.

My most recent purchase of a brand-new Ruger Mk III was also disappointing. I haven't shot it yet, but while dry-cycling every few .22s get caught on the feed ramp. I think the magazines aren't pushing the rounds up at the right angle. Also, the bolt doesn't seem to want to grab the rounds and pull them out of the chamber for ejection. Dang it!
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Holy cow I hope you aren't dry cycling live ammo! Doing that is an extremely bad idea!

Anyway, assuming you aren't doing that bad thing, then remember that most new guns come in "ready to ship" condition, NOT ready to fire. Detail strip the MKIII and clean everything, then blast it with spray breakfree CLP (just like the Marlin 60) and re-assemble.

After that you might want to look at my comments in this thread "Range Report-New Ruger 22/45 MKIII". Post #1 covers some of my initial points like noting that the MKIII seems to be sensitive to OAL of cartrdge (but it likes the CCI Blazers. In post #14 I talk about discovering some plastic "flash" in one magazine that was part of the trouble I was having. Also after about 450-500 rounds my MKIII just smoothed out on it's own and went from a jam-o-matic to a nice reliable plinker. I think that the MKIII just has a somewhat long (and annoying) break in period.
 
M249MachineGun, you must relax my good man...

Just hang around the categorized firearms threads and learn from the more experienced guys. You need to stop being so cheap when buying guns. Spend the extra for the GOOD stuff! You'll be happier you did. Save yourself some aggravation.
 
Spend the extra for the GOOD stuff!
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More like research and choose wisely. More expensive isn't always better.

Lots of people, for example, are deliriously happy with inexpensive Kel-Tec Sub-2000 carbines, and I can't even count the posts that are on the order of "$1000 Kimber FTF augh!" :)
 
RE: 10/22 giving problems

An awful lot of the time, problems with 10/22's choking can be cleared up just by replacing the extractor. Volquartsen makes a good one that is about $9 and is a drop-in part.
If there are any lingering difficulties, try a dab of Loc-Tite or superglue to make sure the ejector is fixed firmly in place. While you have everything apart, drop in a recoil buffer, too.
 
As for the Romanian AK, mine had the same problem. Disassemble the gun, and you'll find that the rails and the bolt carrier are very rough. Use some 800 grit sandpaper and take off all the burrs and slightly smooth all the sharp edges on the rails, the bolt carrier, and the bolt, and anywhere else that's really rough or has burrs. I'd be willing to bet that it works flawlessly after that.

As for the Marlin 60, mine had exactly the same problem. Don't just clean it, CLEAN it. They are very finicky about dirt, and extra dirt will do exactly what you're talking about. Make sure there's plenty of oil too. Mine won't last more than 300 or so rounds without a thorough cleaning. Anything at all that slows down the action will make the rounds jam into the barrel just below the chamber, just like you're seeing.
 
my guns suck also !!!!
They suck the money right out of my account for ammo and extra mags and fee for the range. I feel your pain !!!!!! :neener:

good luck with the problems , hope you get them worked out
 
Hiaboo - respectfully, please do not post gross misinformation like that... if you don't know, don't advise... you MIGHT just get a relatively uneducated gun user to actually believe something like that!

I have no less than 4 Ruger 10/22's, 2 which I built myself... both with .920 barrels...

the extractor on the bolt extracts, and the ejector in the trigger group ejects... the MAGAZINE holds loaded rounds, and provides the guides (feed lips) for feeding...

the "Exact Edge" extractor IS a superior piece, but it replaces the FACTORY extractor...

99% of the extraction problems with .920 barrels comes from the person assembling the gun and NOT properly aligning the extractor groove (milled into the barrel) with the extractor itself...

the magazine has NOTHING to do with ejection...
 
Dry-cycling live rounds isn't particularly indicative of how the gun will function on the range. Also, as previously pointed out, it's not particularly safe.

In defense of pawn shop guns, you can find some really good deals and some really great guns, but you have to know what your looking at. Learning to evaluate arms isn't as difficult as it may seem, but it's not something you can just jump in and do either.
 
hmmm,

I read about so many problems. I must be really lucky. In about 40 autoloaders I have only had one stock gun that ever misfeed and it was about one in 50 and then there was a do it yourself caliber conversion that I did that had about one in 25. The rest have refused to misfeed. Not sure why I have been so lucky.
 
Hemicuda--most of the time you can remove the extractor on a 10/22 and the round will still be ejected.
As to the initial thread starter, most every old Marlin 60 I've seen has the buffer literally broken in pieces inside the receiver. If it were mine, I'd tear it down, inspect for broken parts such as the buffer, and clean and lube it with a high quality DRY LUBE spray for firearms. Just doing this may fix your problems. Good luck:)
 
Well, I don't mean any misinformation, that's what I read and was told... Myself, I do have 3 10/22's I have also build 2 of them, similar as you have, Hemicuda.. The thing about the magazine assisting in the ejection, I can understand how that works because there are other firearms that work in a similar fashion. On anothter tangent, the magazine also is a safety feature in itself with other firearms. I'm not trying to start anything here, in fact I'm apologizing here.. Take it for what its' worth.

In fact I've edited my past posts to remove the information.
 
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Just hang around the categorized firearms threads and learn from the more experienced guys. You need to stop being so cheap when buying guns. Spend the extra for the GOOD stuff! You'll be happier you did. Save yourself some aggravation.
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+1

I learned this lesson with an old winchester auto 22lr and a Firestar .45acp 1911 clone. I had another upcomeing with a S&W 1000 auto 12 gauge, but I figured the shotty out and it's a nice old, good looking cheap gun now that I can field strip blind folded. Stay with Quality and Life Time Warrantys; Kimber & Springfield come to mind ;)

As for the WASR-10, I had a Romanian AK in Iraq, nice black synthetic stocks, she was a dream to shoot. All the Romanian AK's I came in contact with were extreemly tight tolleranced and very good weapons, they needed tough love like that you'd give to a M2. We had a few of them and honestly they worked better after about 900 rounds each on full auto and they really liked the graphite lube, not CLP or LAW. Good quality AK's need to be broke in, the cheap ones that rattle usally need to be over lubed.
 
Hey, if you don't like your guns, I will take them off your hands. I won't even charge you. lol.
 
I've seen more than one brand new WASR exhibit the same "malfunction". The culprit was that they were dry. Take a can of lube and liberally spray down the interior of the action... they like to run wet.

As far as the .22s, I'd try a few different brands of ammo to see what they like before doing anything more drastic.
 
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