All you need to know about voting in Nov.

[hillbilly]

All you need to know about voting this November can be found in the following headlines I just pulled off other Internet sites.

Uh, does anyone else detect a pattern here????????


GOP: Congress Won't Vote on Weapons Ban
AP via Yahoo! News - Sep 08 8:52 PM

GOP leaders: No vote to renew assault guns ban
The Tucson Citizen - Sep 09 3:46 AM

GOP: Congress Won't Vote on Weapons Ban
Miami Herald - Sep 08 3:19 PM

Assault gun ban will die, GOP says
Albuquerque Tribune - 1 hour, 15 minutes ago


hillbilly

 

[boofus]

Come monday we'll see if Bush and Tom Delay get my votes. The michael moore hasn't sung yet.

 

[tyme]

Hillbilly, that's a bit simplistic. Those headlines are talking about near-term probable (in)action.

First, what Congress does and what the President does are different. Just because Kerry might end up in the Whitehouse doesn't mean a GOP-controlled congress would roll over and pass a new AWB.

That said, I have no faith in the GOP-controlled congress, and a lot of people seem to think that next year we'll get a new AWB no matter who's in charge... of Congress or the Whitehouse. There's nothing quite as frightening to politicians as departing from the status quo, and the status quo is "no new hi-caps or assault weapons." That, coupled with some media hysteria about fast-firing, monstrous-capacity rifles generated by the usual suspects, and it'd take very little additional prodding to get majority support for a new ban.

 

[hillbilly]

Tyme, I think you might be the who is a little simplistic in outlook here.

As has been pointed out on another related thread, the Republicans in both the House and Senate have had to fight off three separate attempts at renewing the AWB this year alone.

It has not been a simple case of mere "inaction" as you write it. Far from it.

Remember the fight in the Senate over attaching the AWB to the lawsuit pre-emption bill??????????

So exactly why would the GOP spend all that political capital fighting off three attempts at an AWB renewal this year so they could turn around and piss off their supporters big time by creating an even more stringent AWB in December or so?

Or maybe I am being too simplistic here?

hillbilly

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

That said, I have no faith in the GOP-controlled congress, and a lot of people seem to think that next year we'll get a new AWB no matter who's in charge

In March, the vote to renew the AWB in the Senate was 52-47.

In Alaska, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Louisiana, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Washington, all the Republican Senate candidates are on record as opposing the ban. If these Republican candidates win all of those seats, the above vote would become 45-54.

Unless these Senate-candidates decided to go on record opposing the ban while secretly planning to vote for it, that is more than enough votes to guarantee the ban sunsets until 2007.

 

[Lone_Gunman]

that is more than enough votes to guarantee the ban sunsets until 2007.

Maybe or maybe not.

The next big mass murder we have involving guns will cause some of those Senators to flip-flop.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

The next big mass murder we have involving guns will cause some of those Senators to flip-flop.

Actually, most of the new crop of Republican Senate candidates are rated B or better by GOA and have a past voting history on guns. Considering that at least two of them have come out for a repeal of the 1934 NFA, I don't see a lot of flip-flopping in this group.

Now you might see some incumbent Senators who were on edge like Feingold or Allen flip; but would it be enough to neutralize a big pro-gun swing of seven seats? I doubt it.

The fact of the matter is that no matter how much you think the Republicans might flip, your odds are better with them than any of the other parties.

 

[Standing Wolf]

Our elected misrepresentatives aren't still going to be afraid of us the day after the election.

 

[strambo]

That said, I have no faith in the GOP-controlled congress

Well, I have a lot less faith in a Dem controlled Congress...and that is the only other option.

 

[ReadyontheRight]

Hillbilly, that's a bit simplistic. Those headlines are talking about near-term probable (in)action.

Do you think the original AWB would have gotten anywhere without Presidential support?

Would a Pres. Gore or a Pres. Kerry be out stumping for renewal of the AWB and pushing for a vote? YBYA they would.

The "(in) action" is due to a lot of stuff behind the scenes and a lot of AWB silence from the White House.

We look at 68% of the voters supporting renewal of the AWB as misguided, uninformed fence-sitters. But the congress critters look at 68% as a LOT of sheeple votes.

Dems and RHINOs can pretty easily turn "The AWB does nothing to reduce crime" into "the 1994 AWB was not strong enough".

 

[one45auto]

Here's all you really need to know about voting this November:

A vote for anyone but Bush is as good as voting for Kerry. I repeat, a vote for anyone else ~ no matter what you call it, no matter what your reason, no matter how well intended ~ is going to help the Kerry camp.

So forget what you might think about Bush and start thinking about yourself. Do you value your gun rights? Do you want another, perhaps expanded, assault weapons ban? Do you want to see gun manufacturers sued into oblivion through frivilous lawsuits? Do you want handgun bans? Do you want liberal activist jurists appointed to the Supreme Court? If the answer is no, then vote for Bush. Do anything else and you'll get precisely that. Count on it.