Almost had to use my shotgun last night!! Details inside

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Situation handled with no shots fired. You did just fine. We can all armchair quarterback, but under the same situation I might have done exactly the same.
 
Two points- NY doesn't have castle doctrine, and you can't use a long-gun for self-defense in NY without serious legal repercussions.

Article 35 of the penal code, read up on it. You have a legal duty to retreat when threatened, even in your own home. Yay NY.
 
As a young man I never did anything that idiotic, but as a teen and young 20's I always hated finding out a girl had an older brother. Not that I would do anything stupid, but they are always suspicious, which is a good thing.
 
QUOTE:". I had my shotgun out as well because it was new and my buddy had not seen it yet. Being that it is my primary home defense weapon, it was indeed loaded."

That's the only problem I have W/ the whole story. If you want to show off your new gun, you unload it. other than that good job.
 
Wow! The boy almost stopped aging right then and there. I suspect his parents will communicate that fact to him.

I agree always report incidents like this to the police.

Re: "...a 300 pound biker", that fine by me...so long as the biker is a bikerette. :eek:
 
NY doesn't have castle doctrine, and you can't use a long-gun for self-defense in NY without serious legal repercussions.
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If this is true, and NYEnthusiast is actually in New York, he may have committed several felonies last night, as correct as he may have been in defending himself. I'd pray long and hard that the boy or his parents don't make a police report.

And unfortunately, NYEnthusiast has posted his admission of what he did. :(
 
I disagree. No admission of guilt has been posted.

How does anyone know that I am "Doc2005"? A password can be stolen, etc. More than one legal case has fallen through on that basis alone.

However, it is for the reason mentioned, that I too agree it is best to make a police report. In closing, let me add, if posting an <<incident>> on-line, run it past one of the moderators first.

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Hey...all you 200+ pounders..what am I the only 170 weakling around here?! See, that's why I need to get myself some hot, 300 pound bikerette to protect me.

<<Doc2005 walks off singin'>> "I got a brand new girlfriend..." Lordy sakes I love that song!

Don't tell my wife I was singing that. She might take it for serious. The I would be in trooooooooble.
 
I know of several cases where long arms have been used in self defense in the state of New York without any kind of legal reprecussion, and, some of those involve shots being fired and officers responding. As far as reporting what happened goes, its over and done with. The young man was apolagetic and as I stated quite inebriated. His parents were not angry or upset in any way with me or my faimly. Rather they were embarassed and angry with their son for his behavior. He is a friend of my sisters and, I think he learned a valuble lesson. To clarify btw, just so some of you guy's remain calm, this incident did not take place in NY. Though I was born there and go to school there. My mother remarried several years ago and lives out of state with my younger sister and step father, who has been as much a real father to me as a my biological father. This is where the mentioned incident took place, at my mothers home and not in nys. Though I still do not bielive there is any legal rule against useing a rifle or shotgun for defense in New York State. My grandfather was NYPD for over 25 years, and, I never heard such a thing from him.
 
Sounds like the young man had a moment with the Lord, which you kindly provided for him. Should be about enough to help him see things a mite more clearly now.

As to the AR/AK thing, there's no winning! AR is more accurate, but it shoots BB's and has more parts than a space shuttle and most of them can stop the function.

The AK shoots a good round and nothing short of slamming it in a 30 ton press can stop it from functioning, but what's that worth when you can throw the round more accurately?

Truly a conundrum. :)
 
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If this is true, and NYEnthusiast is actually in New York, he may have committed several felonies last night, as correct as he may have been in defending himself. I'd pray long and hard that the boy or his parents don't make a police report. And unfortunately, NYEnthusiast has posted his admission of what he did.
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And exactly what felonies would he be charged with, praytell?

In the middle of the night, NYE hears violent banging on a window. For all he knew when he first heard it, there could've been more than one person in the area.

So NYE and a friend walk armed around the house, and determine it's a half-drunk adolescent with obvious self-esteem problems, who apparently isn't getting enough. :D

They don't shoot or even threaten to shoot him, instead handling the incident in a reasonable manner. Hell, when I was growing up we wouldn't have shot him either, but we probably would've whipped his a$$ before his parents got there. :p

NYE handled the situation as well as can be expected, and based on the information he has provided, didn't even commit any misdemeanors, much less felonies.
 
I bet once your sister spreads the word around her school his name will be piss pants.:)


AR vs. AK argument.
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Come on. Anybody with half a brain knows that the M14 was the best weapon to ever be laid in the hands of a soldier.
 
And exactly what felonies would he be charged with, praytell?
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Note the conditional in my post. IF that was true, and IF the incident took place in NY. Neither may in fact be the case.

However, in the hypothetical situation that it was illegal to defend yourself with a long gun, he would have been facing assault charges at a minimum.
 
In New York? Producing a long-gun and holding a nuisance person at gun point for nothing more than pounding on exterior glass?

Aggravated Assault. It is NYS after all.

I don't think I would have responded similarly, however. But I am glad that you didn't have to discharge your weapon.

In what state did this take place, just out of curiosity?
 
In New York? Producing a long-gun and holding a nuisance person at gun point for nothing more than pounding on exterior glass?

Aggravated Assault. It is NYS after all.
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Glad I'm in Texas where we have the Castle Doctrine.

Take care,
DFW1911
 
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I'm not going to divulge what State this took place in, not because I am afraid I acted illegally ( I'm quite sure I was within my rights), but, because I dont want to start a legal argument here. I'm not a lawyer, I'm assuming most of you are not lawyers either. I do have a few faimly members that practice law however. According to them my actions were totally Kosher. The authoritys were not involved and there not going to be, lets just leave it at that. Just be aware it was not NYS.
 
I'm not going to divulge what State this took place in, not because I am afraid I acted illegally ( I'm quite sure I was within my rights), but, because I dont want to start a legal argument here.
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Mighty secretive, aren't ya? Oh well. But I though the point of forum participation is to facilitate conversation. Suit yourself though.
 
There's some poor kid on the "Frequent Peers" forum describing how he was stomping out a cigarette last night on his girlfriend's front porch when some maniacs with shotguns came at him!!!

He'll have the best story of the night.
 
Mighty secretive, aren't ya? Oh well. But I though the point of forum participation is to facilitate conversation. Suit yourself though.
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There's a difference between conversation and having a bunch of gunshoppe attorneys wagging their fingers at you.

EDIT: this post might sound a little confrontational if read the wrong way. I didn't mean it to be such.

I was simply trying to plead NYE's perspective.
 
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