Am I the only long-time shooter here who's never shot an AR?

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There are a great number of people who don't perceive a need or want for any firearm, why should it be surprising or impressive when someone hasn't perceived a need or want for a specific model?

I'd say mostly because the AR is presented as "America's favorite rifle" at this point - rightfully or not. Past that, I take your point.


Just like some people say it is "un-American" not to own/desire a 1911. Is it really?
 
My local gun shop has 11 gun racks for long guns around the perimiter of the shop. 2 are for used guns, 1 for 22's, 2 are bolt and lever guns, 2 for shotguns, 4 for AR15's. The other shelves are usually 1/2 to 2/3 full. The AR15 shelves are packed.
 
Not that unusual. Ive been shooting for 20+ years (not long compared to others here) and shot my first one last year. Not everyone's friends and family has one. Some guy's friends and family dont even really shoot.

True enough. However I imagine that a good section of this board has a multitude of friends and family who own AR's though.. Every single one of my male relatives has one.

As far as my co-workers go, the ones that I shoot with tend to be my partner, co-workers on other units or co-workers at the fire department. About half of them were already shooters and they own several guns and they vary from being total gun nuts to they're just sort of into it. Most of these guys have at least one AR since they're so popular and fairly inexpensive.

However even with most of the newbs who don't own a gun period usually they've at least fired a gun at some point in their lives. Most of the time with the long guns that they've fired it tends to be a .22LR rifle (usually ends up being a Ruger 10/22 or a Marlin .22), a pump shotgun of some type (usually ends up being a Mossberg 500 or a Remington 870), a 'deer rifle' of some sort and an AR. They always remember the AR since it's so distinctive looking.

Trying to be a good partner and an ambassador for the shooting sports and wanting a bonding experience (before we're knee deep in bad calls) I usually try to get them into it a little and invite them to go shooting.

At any rate almost every single one of them has shot an AR at some point previously even if they don't own a single gun themselves. Most often it belongs to a male relative of some sort.

Maybe it's just the families that these guys come from (lots of dads and brothers who were or are in the Military or who are Police, Fire or EMS and that's how they ended up in this field to begin with). I don't know.

I just think that AR's are way more popular than they used to be in the 70's, 80's, 90's and early 2000's due to Iraq/Afghanistan, video games, their affordability, their availability (instead of A-B-C / Armalite, Bushmaster and Colt being the only game in town there are literally a couple hundred brands of AR-15's out there now) and the fact that they pretty much America's rifle.

Last year a buddy of mine did pick one up though. Loaded me up with a full mag to shoot a pumpkin. I fired 3 or 4 and gave it back. Good enough. Almost bought one last year due to them being so cheap now. Kinda glad I didnt. Not my kind of gun.

Yeah, but they work and they're THE most popular military style in the US right now. Parts and mags float around cheap and in abundance.

If I lived in the Czech Republic I'd try to get a VZ-58 or a Bren 805.
If I lived in Finland I'd try to get ahold of a Mosin Nagant or a Valmet.
If I lived in Cambodia I'd try to get an AKM.
Since I live in the US I mostly have AR-15's.

There's something to be said for availability.
 
ARs are my favorite firearms to shoot.

There isn't a flavor I don't like:

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A rack grade M4 with a standard trigger will probably leave a sour taste in your mouth.

They are overgassed for ultimate reliability and the stock AR trigger is prone to camming/creep.

A properly tuned rifle with a good trigger and a good optic, is like shooting an entirely different gun.

 
In fact, I've never owned a centerfire semi-auto hunting rifle, but fired several, years ago, to sight them in as part of my gun repair/accurizing business. Never wanted to own one, but if I had to, I'd probably choose a Browning.
Well, you're sure not the only one. Although, my first hunting rifle is a M-100 Winchester (semi-auto .308) that my folks bought me when I was 14 (55 years ago) and I DO have an AR. I haven't shot my AR yet though - it was a stupid investment that I made the day before the 2016 Presidential Election.
I'm just not interested in ARs. But I don't fault anyone who is. I don't know - maybe I got over my interest in black, plastic stocked rifles while I was in the service many years ago.
 
Own 6 and building a 7th (side charger) this summer. Hands down, the best shoulder-fired weapon when it comes to reliability, utility, maneuverability, flexibility, accuracy, and cost-effectiveness in total. Some folks are intimidated by them but that's ok. I support their freedom of choice; with my ARs (and 1911s) of course.
 
I have to laugh at some of the comments.

If you have no desire to shoot an AR that’s fine. But the folks who make comments like “they have terrible triggers”or any similar generalization don’t know much about ARs. And I’m not saying it to be mean but to be factual.

It’s like saying “I don’t like trucks because they’re under powdered”. Well if you’re talking about my sons 4 cyclinder S-10 you’re right. You’re very wrong if talking about my F150 or my brothers F350. Well unless you’re comparing it to my Mustang, then yea most are under powered. Well unless we’re talking towing, etc. how are we measuring power?

Like trucks ARs come in all sizes and configurations. Some have crummy triggers. Many have OK ones and some have excellent triggers.

ARs are popular because as many say they’re like Legos. If you don’t like the stock trigger, get a better one. Pop a few pins, drop the old trigger and out the new one in. If you don’t like the stock, there are tons of options. Say with hand guards, pistol grips etc etc etc etc.

So yea no gun can do everything, but the ARs design is so popular as they’re so easy to change modify and are pretty close.
 
You shouldn't be allowed to call yourself a shooter unless you own a Winchester 94, a 1911, a quality bolt rifle, pump shotgun, a S&W revolver and an AR.

Interesting observation...my bet is that most shooters coming into this sport have shot, at best, three of the six types of weapons you specify.
 
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Is not having owned or shot an AR 15 a badge of honor or something. To me it is sort of like saying I have never eaten chicken a hamburger or a hotdog.
 
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Took me a while to warm up to them. Shot them in the military first which wasn't the best experience. Worn out AR's using .22 adaptors was my first experience with them. Later, every time qualifications came around, we got to shoot the old worn out Viet Nam era A1's that somehow were always amply pre-supplied with nasty powder residue. So we had to clean that and what we shot too. Came out with a firm dislike for the beast along with that darn twang.

Finally came back around to check out AR's a few years ago and have been pleasantly surprised. They are much improved from what I remember and shoot like a house afire. The ammo is pretty cheap for a centerfire too (at least right now).
 
Yeah, but they work and they're THE most popular military style in the US right now. Parts and mags float around cheap and in abundance.
Hey Ive got nothing against them. I know there fine, proven rifles. I just said they're not for me. I'd rather spend my $ on a different firearm that is. Different strokes for different folks. Thats all.
I'm just not interested in ARs. But I don't fault anyone who is.
Same.
 
Hey Ive got nothing against them. I know there fine, proven rifles. I just said they're not for me. I'd rather spend my $ on a different firearm that is. Different strokes for different folks. Thats all.
Same.
It's all good. Not a big deal either way. My comments were more along the line of 'Just saying...'.

I can see why some people dislike it. There are a few things about the rifle that I wish were different, but it's popular for a reason and there is something to be said for availability. Seems like just about everyone has at least one.
 
Hey, what rail/forend and what scope is that?

(Bottom rifle in the pic at the top which I believe is the same one on the blue barrel)

Rifle with the light and silencer is equipped with an Armalite M-15 free float forend. That particular version is their 'tactical' model that has a continuous top rail. The scope is a Steiner T5Xi. 1-5x.

Other rifle is again the Armalite M-15 but it is the competition version with just a little bit of rail at the top for a front sight if needed. That scope is a Vortex Razor HD Gen2 1-6x. You can't see the internals but the competition rifle also has a JP low mass bolt carrier and a silent captive buffer spring. Both have adjustable gas blocks as well.


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I see why there was some confusion. On the barrel picture I have the competition handguard on the rifle that now sports the tactical version. I bought a second one after trying the first.
 
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They are just a tool. I used both the M-14 and AR in service. Both did the job. I admired the AR for it's accuracy. It was easy to shoot expert with. I had no problems with them in combat. For ten years after the serive I did not own any gun. I got back into hunting. But I did not consider owning an AR until they were legal for deer and I had a broken shoulder. I had used an SKS and AK but balance and accuracy were pretty bad. I tried an AR on deer and was very happy with the performance. Now that I am somewhat healed I have a Tikka in 7-08. A better tool for me, but the AR is a very good tool, but there are plenty of other good choices and who doesn't like classic wood and blued steel. What a country, buy and shoot what you like, It's all good. Warning though, stay away from AR's because they are habit forming.
 
I had never fired an AR until 5 years ago. I thought the people who had them were wanna be Rambo's. Well I was wrong. The AR is fun to shoot as there's no recoil to speak of and can be capable of excellent accuracy. Mine will shoot .75" groups at 100 yards with SMK's. You can customize an AR in numerous ways. It's true stock triggers suck but there are aftermarket triggers that are excellent. It's a very enjoyable rifle. Most all my life a nice rifle was one with a beautiful wood stock but not anymore.
 
I cut my teeth on the M16A1 when I joined the army in 1987, and used every version in the military (even a few lesser known versions) up to the MK18. They are easy to shoot, and can be very accurate.
 
Shot my first AR at about 10, the M16A1 at 16, built an XM177E2 clone after I got out, but it's more of a tool to me, though I am looking forward to popping some coyotes and deer with the one my son just traded to me. They are very useful, fun sometimes, but they don't really excite me like they do others.

I cut my teeth on the M16A1 when I joined the army in 1987, and used every version in the military (even a few lesser known versions) up to the MK18. They are easy to shoot, and can be very accurate.
M231? Saw a few at the Maintenance Activity on post, but never fired them.
 
I started shooting with my Dad in the 1960's. Never shot an AR-15 until about 2000 when I began shooting Service Rifle to qualify for buying an M1 Garand from the CMP. I was competing with a club loaner Garand when one of the other competitors allowed me to shoot his Service Rifle match AR-15 for one course of fire. The accuracy of the rifle hooked me.

I don't have much use for an M4gery, a Mall Ninja AR-15 or any 'pray and spray" AR-15. But my very accurate Service Rifle match AR-15 or my 12-13 pound, 26" long barrel prairie dog AR-15 in 204 Ruger, now that's a different story.

ARs are popular because as many say they’re like Legos. If you don’t like the stock trigger, get a better one. Pop a few pins, drop the old trigger and out the new one in. If you don’t like the stock, there are tons of options. Say with hand guards, pistol grips etc etc etc etc.

The Lego concept is the icing on the cake. I get to assemble my rifles with the components and cartridges (9 different ones at present) that I want for the purpose that I am after.

I will agree that not all rifle platforms are for everyone. I got no use for an AK-47 or any of its variants.
 
I think last year was the first time I shot one. Didn't care for it at all. It's not like I'm stuck in the 60's or anything. I've never liked levers much either and I shot my first deer with one around 64. I do however like semi-auto carbines, just not AR's. I know why people like them tho. They're like the Barbie doll of firearms, you can accessorize until you run out of money.

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