America has got it good

[Radagast]

We do have a constitution, but it lacks a bill of rights, at least in part due to the racism inherent in Australia at the end of the 19th century. I've a copy of it on my shelf, although I am actually more familiar with the US Constitution.

 

[razorback2003]

New Zealand Seems Better

I have read some of New Zealand's firearm laws and they do not seem as bad as Australia's. It is possible for shooters to own a wider variety of handguns there than in Australia, due to not having a minimum barrel length and caliber restriction. I am not taking into account the special 'permits' that the police commissioners can issue to people for pocket handguns to carry in public...just generally what folks can own. Also it appears that people in New Zealand can own AR-15's and other semi auto rifles and shotguns without the hassles Australia has put into place. I like my Remington 1100...I like how it has soft recoil and does not bother an old injury like pump shotguns do. I have no idea if New Zealand has provisions for the special 'permits' to carry like Australian states do for those who have death threats or if the police there are even armed.

 

[Radagast]

No idea on the permit to carry situation in New Zealand, there was a case last year where a gun shop owner shot an attacker wielding a machete. IIRC the shooting was ruled justifiable but the owner was still charged for misuse of a firearm/ having a loaded firearm. I believe the jury refused to convict.

 

[Cosmoline]

 

[armoredman]

I knew a Kiwi who worked for Loomis Armored in Tucson who said he left NZ specifically because of the gun laws, and was a naturalized US citizen now.

 

[Aaron12]

on the afternoon news then they had little story on the weapons amnesty and how it when you "Give in dangerous and deadly guns and weapons"

This is from the NSW police website of april this year minister of police said this.
"Mr Kelly said that following the three month amnesty, police would conduct a blitz on
the safe storage of firearms right across the state."
“The message is clear - any life lost because of an unsecured firearm is a tragedy,”
Mr Kelly.
“There’s no question that we need to take guns out of the equation.”

If im not mistaken, shouldn't we be taking the unsecured part out? instead of just handing in the guns?

 

[Art Eatman]

Aaron, it's the usual "non-think", that inanimate objects somehow CAUSE harm to be done.

"The car ran off the road" is another example. You're telling me the car got tired of being on the pavement, and all by itself decided to veer into the ditch?

 

[GUN BOY]

Guns don't kill people
people kill people

 

[gideon_70]

What amazes me is that you allow them to do that to you.

 

[Kino74]

All I needed to know of the absurdity of Australian gun laws I read right here. God bless our fellow gunowners in Australia, I truly feel your pain.

http://theknightshift.blogspot.com/2007/05/megatron-is-one-banned-bot-in-australia.html

Megatron is one banned 'bot in Australia
The government of Australia has banned the import of the Transformers Masterpiece Megatron collector's toy into the country (click here for the story).
This is Megatron as he originally appeared when the Transformers line was first introduced in the early 1980s... but this one has a much better sculpt, is greatly articulated, is made of die-cast metal and is a lot sturdier than the '83/'84 model (how many of us cried when the original Megatron's arm came off?).

He also transforms into a life-sized Walther P-38 semi-automatic pistol... which is the problem. Masterpiece Megatron is now considered a public health threat by the authorities in Sydney. Yup, 20 years ago this was a perfectly okay child's toy. In 2007, at $100 a pop and marketed primarily to adult collector's, you need permission from the Australian government before you can import one from there. So far they've impounded about 50 Masterpiece Megatrons.

Just one more sign that the world we live in has gone positively bonkers.

By the way, my friend Phillip Arthur has the good fortune of being the proud owner of one of these babies! Check out his in-depth review here and if you find yourself salivating for one, you might be able to luck out on eBay (I'm seeing Masterpiece Megatron currently going from $90 all the way up to almost $200).

 

[razorback2003]

Funny

That is funny that a piece of metal that is the same as a rock and can only be thrown at someone is considered a "Prohibited Weapon" in another country because it LOOKS like a handgun! That is a TOY! Do kids down there play cowboys and Indians? What do they use...sticks?

 

[armoredman]

Hey, if one of you in Oz gets out this way, can you bring some Vegemite? I have been dying to try that stuff.

 

[CooperThunder]

Sure...I am going to visit Oz soon...World Market near you sells them. It is cheaper to buy 'em that way...no need to wait.

 

[armoredman]

Cost Plus? Cool, one down the street.

 

[Aaron12]

talking about Australia not being that gun friendly; going to a big clay target shoot this weekend 100 targets. Miroku shotgun up for grabs for the best shooter 120+ expected to turn up. should be a good sunday. proves that not all of the Australian's are anti's.