America Is Dead...

[auschip]

Imperial America! Of course.... Thanks for clarifying that...

Explains the gold fringe around the flag. *ducks for cover*

 

[Boats]

This argument just strikes me as non-Marxist class warfare. America has always been alive for the economic winners and dead for the losers.

 

[Gordon Fink]

Boats, in Imperial America, even the economic “losers†get to be fat and well entertained. If not, they might get a little rowdy.

~G. Fink

 

[The Real Mad Max]

G Fink,

Your signature line says it all...

 

[The Rabbi]

Max,
If I were stuck in the PRC like Gordon is I might have a lousy view of the world too. Fortunately (for humanity) the U.S. is not confined to California, much as folks out there like to think it is. Maybe in CA high taxes, intolerable regulation, political correctness, and general "meshigas" all add up to a totalitarian state. But here in TN we still have rights and still "wave Ole Glory".

 

[cuchulainn]

Yes, cuchulainn, the situation does look pretty hopeless, but we haven’t all retreated to our bunkers just yet.

That is exactly why it is wrong to say "America is dead.

Some of us can even read all the way through an article.

Yes, some of us can and do. However, most people don't, so many people came away from this article with something other than the author's final call to action.

 

[JohnBT]

"America is so long dead the body stinks and is maggot ridden. Your denial is part of the problem."

No sir. My hope and faith, and the hope and faith of others, is part of the reason my country will survive.

And your trash talking isn't convincing anybody of anything.

John

 

[Thumper]

Thumper, are you suggesting we start killing people? You claim America is alive among you and your partners. Do you pay income tax, property tax, sales tax, car tax, socialism security tax or the 400 other taxes? Can you own an M16? Can you carry a gun everywhere you want without a special "permit"?

What I'm suggesting, dave, is that if YOU feel enslaved, you have a moral obligation to pick up a rifle and get to work.

Just so you know, I'll be fighting on the team I swore allegiance to.

Either kwitcherbitchin' or get to fightin'.

 

[Molon Labe]

Yes. Our founding fathers equated overtaxation as the lack of liberty. 50% tax rate is slavery.

Damn right it is.

Your labor is your property. Your money is your property. When the government confiscates your money, it is confiscating your property.

“When the government takes your money, they also take your Freedom. Without economic freedom, political freedom is an academic exercise.†– Jim Quinn

 

[The Rabbi]

By that logic no government can tax its citizens. How do you propose they raise revenue?
All those taxes were voted on through the various bodies of government, theoretically answerable to the citizens at poll time. If you dont want taxes then I suggest hitting the campaign trail.

 

[FPrice]

A careful, or even just half-careful reading of this piece reveals it for what it truely is. A propaganda piece for the LP.

Times are bad, everyone else is corrupt, your ONLY salvation is the LP, if you don't realize and acknowledge that then you are a worthless mouth-breather.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

 

[sumpnz]

Rabbi, I'd be willing bet that the folks you're argueing with subscribe to the anarchist philosophy. If that's true, they tend to believe that any taxation is theft, and that abolition of the goverment, and hence the taxation inherent to such, is necessary for any meaningful freedom to be possible. They seem to think that their utopic "Free Market" will solve all problems but they refuse to recognize that without govt that free market will colapse into abuse not seen since the robber barrons of the 19th century. Of course, I'm sure they'll accuse me of failing to recognize some truth they deem self-evident and a pissing match will then ensue between the anarchist adherents and the proponents of constitutional republicanism. In the end each side will just talk past the other, and nobody will any wiser for it. Better to just let it go.

 

[wingman]

America has always been alive for the economic winners and dead for the losers.

True, however we are gaining in more losers all time. Being 60+ years old
I have lived through many changes much in the past 40 years have been
very discouraging to say the least, I am a very strong believer in America
and it's way of life, however I am very pessimistic that we can or will remain
free due to a growing uneducated population who is more interested in consuming then voting or working in the system to keep our rights. I do not see a leader in our two party system who will truly change
things and I must admit I believe it will get worse in coming years.

 

[moa]

We Americans are, in a way, slaves.

We are slaves to the $40 trillion plus in national debt and obligations. This present debt and future obligations was recently confirmed by the Comptroller of the United States, David Gardener.

This works out to $100,000 of national debt and obligations for each American man, women and child.

 

[Cosmoline]

America is not the federal gov'ment. This is a mistake many politicos make, and I believe the writer is making it here. The federal government is a very different thing today than the Constitution's federal government. But this does not mean that America is dead. We are not our government.

 

[JohnBT]

Amen to that.

 

[Gordon Fink]

In the end each side will just talk past the other, and nobody will [be] any wiser for it.

You got that right, sadly.

~G. Fink

 

[Michigander]

It is quite obvious that the truth hurts like hell!

 

[cordex]

Real simple: you don't like it, go somewhere else. But quit whining.

*sigh*

Taking money from someone else at gunpoint isn't theft if you do it as a group. Gov't infringements are fine and dandy because no one can be trusted to live their own lives.

And if there's anything you dislike about the way things are, leave.

Truly, spoken like people I like to associate with.

 

[R.H. Lee]

The federal government is a very different thing today than the Constitution's federal government. But this does not mean that America is dead. We are not our government.

Amen to that. We give the federal .gov entirely too much emphasis, too much media time and too much of our attention (not to mention too much of our money). By those acknowledgments, we forget the irrelevance of the barrage of unconsitutional laws and regulations. The federal .gov exists only because we give it our money, and that is their weakness. If there ever were dissatisfaction to the point that people simply refused to send $$ to the treasury, .gov would become responsive to us. There are not enought prisons to incarcerate several million "tax evaders". Once the idea caught on, NOBODY would pay taxes.

 

[rock jock]

Congress shamelessly makes laws regarding speech, religion and guns

Talk about shamless. I'm sorry, but either the author of this article is either completely ignorant of the early days of our Republic and the laws made by the Founding Fathers, or he is simply disingenuous. History shows the early days of America to have LOTS and LOTS of laws based on religion. It was the intention of the Founding Fathers to be this way. Only within the past 50 years have these laws fell to the wayside, and now we are taught that our current areligious, or anti-religious (depending on your personal view) environment was always the norm. It is not. This kind of historical revisionism smacks of same garbage we are fed by the antis every day.

 

[Andrew Rothman]

Tibetan religious tradition has it that when the Dalai Lama dies, the Buddha of Compassion leaves his body and incarnates in the body of a young child. The monks immediately go out in search of this blessed child, and when they find him – as they inevitably do – he is tested by a group of high lamas and enthroned as the reincarnation of his successor.

Um, wouldn't that be predecessor?

Hard to take such bad writing seriously.

 

[Standing Wolf]

Somewhere in hell, George III is laughing himself silly.

 

[Greg Bell]

America is doing fine. And I'll go further, unlike the hysterics on both sides, the world won't come to end if my guy loses. I'll just be happy I didn't sell my HK93 and my hi-caps!

 

[Glock Glockler]

Rock jock,

I'm just curious what religion we should mandate: yours?

We also had laws allowing for slavery but I think it's actually a good thing we got rid of those.