American Legion Bans Guns!

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Research can uncover one example of just about anything.

http://www.opencarry.org/?page_id=150

The linked map shows that almost all states (mine, and 44 others) allow guns into establishments that serve alcohol, which is in my mind a positive. We haven't seen a rash of gunfights, and we aren't going to.
 
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jcwit you support GUN CONTROL. Thats what that sign is.

I would have opposed Earps ban. And from the accounts of the movie anyhow the bad guys didn't listen or follow the rules and the people didn't want the restriction.

I'm not trying to attack you I only wish for you to see that.
 
A social club serving alcohol to a group, where some are having having trouble with PTSD, Does not allow CC? They have decided as a group that this is a sound policy, it's their right to do so.
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Hmm, I guess we better screen ALL establishments that serve alcohol for patrons that might have PTSD then, because I'm sure they don't just hang out there. In fact, why single out vets? Cops, docs, first responders and crime victims can ALL have PTSD. Better check the regular bars and establishments that serve alcohol for those 'hi risk' folks as well.
 
jcwit you support GUN CONTROL.
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Actually I do not, see my post #19 on this thread.

I do not support drinking and gun use or carrying, no more than I support cell phone conversations while driving. No more than I support texting while driving. No more than I support prostitution.

If my thoughts and opinions on this are wrong, so be it.

Further being politically correct has nothing to do with it, If you knew me that would be clearly obvious.
 
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for one drinking and guns are not on topic. Carrying a gun in one particular American Legion Post is. And as said before people here on THR have gun to legions and bars and not only not gotten drunk have not even had a drink.

Maybe we should ban Cell Phones in Cars, so that it is never a possibility to talk and drive. would that sound fair to you? Or might there be a reason to have a phone on your person in a car in case an emergency arose?
 
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i'm a long time member of The American Legion. The American Legion has not banned handguns. One American Legion post has banned handguns.

Could it be a condition of their lease?
 
Maybe we should ban Cell Phones in Cars, so that it is never a possibility to talk and drive. would that sound fair to you? Or might there be a reason to have a phone on your person in a car in case an emergency arose?
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My thoughts and opinions are what they are. Never said or claimed to have all the solutions to the worlds problems.

i'm a long time member of The American Legion. The American Legion has not banned handguns. One American Legion post has banned handguns.

Could it be a condition of their lease?
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It may also be an insurance issue. Could be one of many things. We may never know until someone from there responds, which may never happen.
 
Is it just me or is this about as Hypocritical as it can get??

A Veterans Organization that does not support the 2nd Amendment? I find that appalling.
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I see the problem now. You think that because they are Veterans that they must be supportive of everything in the Constitution and/or no longer should be able to have the desire for choice. Just because they are veterans does not mean they they are pro gun anymore than being a cop means a person is pro-gun.

Maybe that as veterans, they have read and understand what it is that the Constitution with regard to whom it applies. They may be 100% supportive of the right and belief that the GOVERNMENT is not supposed to restrict the right to keep and bear arms.
 
Could it be because some some packer had an ND in the building?

My doctor is a shooter and hunter. He is very pro-Second Amendment. There is a no gun sign on his office door.

Some genius had an ND in an examination room. The bullet went through multiple walls and almost hit a nurse.
 
I'd find a new doctor. There was an ND in a town close to me, they should ban guns in that town. keep us safe.
 
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oneounceload said:
Can you carry into an establishment (in CO) that is purely a bar? Here in FL, we cannot, but we can carry into a place like Applebees, even have a drink, but are not allowed to sit "at the bar" while carrying concealed. IME, the VFW, AMVET etc., are nothing more than a private bar/club
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Yes, you can.


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No restrictions on location due to booze but you may not have anything to drink. Sorry cannot quickly find the cite for the second part of that statement.
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Actually, the restriction prohibits you from being intoxicated while armed (as LEO's we interpret this by the same standard that is applicable for legal intoxication while driving). As such, while it isn't always a recommended practice, you won't be finding yourself in a heap of poop for having one drink with dinner while armed.
 
Hey, guess what, I personally have never had one drop of alcohol and ridden my motorcycles. I don't drink and shoot. I do drink and drive -- within reason. I'm responsible. Your nanny state isn't. It is anti-gun. Color it any way you want to, but so is jcwit.

The Earps indeed. That's what gun owners bring to the like of him -- Dodge City and Boot Hill -- and "common sense gun laws" just make sense to him. How come these anti-gunners just have to go after law abiding Americans; they're all about what citizens cannot own, what they cannot do, where they cannot carry, etc?
 
Hey, guess what, I personally have never had one drop of alcohol and ridden my motorcycles. I don't drink and shoot. I do drink and drive -- within reason. I'm responsible. Your nanny state isn't. It is anti-gun. Color it any way you want to, but so is jcwit.
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Well good for you, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it just as I am entitled to mine.

Firearms and booze to not mix, but you are entitled to believe as you wish. And NO I am not anti gun, I'm anti guns and booze, I realize that is extremely difficult to comprehend but its more than obvious that drinking and driving is also hard to comprehend.

Have you read my post # 19 on this thread.

http://www.savetheguns.com/safety_rules.htm
NEVER use drugs or alcohol before or during shooting. Alcohol or drugs can impair judgment. Mistakes are more likely to happen under the influence of alcohol. Be vigilant about safety, don't drink alcohol or use some prescription drugs while handling a gun. Alcohol use before or during the handling and/or firing of a gun, can drastically increase the incidence of a scientific phenomenon known as the Stupidity Factor. Ok, I made up the "Stupidity Factor", but my point remains. This rule applies especially when reloading ammunition.

http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/indiana.aspx
It is unlawful for any person to sell or give a firearm to any person whom he has a reasonable cause to believe has been convicted of a felony, or is a drug abuser or under the influence of a drug, or is an alcohol abuser or in a state of intoxication, or is mentally incompetent.
 
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I also am opposed to many things, but in a lot of cases I'm even more opposed to governments making laws against those things.

Being drunk with a gun is stupid, but having a beer while carrying? I don't think we can say with certainty that having a gun on one's hip and having a glass of wine with dinner is always bad.

I'm opposed to texting while driving, but as a believer in the slippery slope, if we allow laws to tell us it's illegal because it's a distraction, how long will it be before changing the radio station or CD or having a conversation with a passenger will be outlawed. Nothing you can have in a car is more distracting than a small child, right? When will Big Brother ban them from cars?

There's too much government intrusion in every aspect of our lives--it's time to start cutting it back, not adding to it. We can apply peer pressure and let market forces work and thereby accomplish most of what government wants to impose.

Keep in mind that those who deeply want to have a beer while carrying or want to text and drive will do so, law or not.
 
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I also am opposed to many things, but in a lot of cases I'm even more opposed to governments making laws against those things.

Being drunk with a gun is stupid, but having a beer while carrying? I don't think we can say with certainty that having a gun on one's hip and having a glass of wine with dinner is always bad.

I'm opposed to texting while driving, but as a believer in the slippery slope, if we allow laws to tell us it's illegal because it's a distraction, how long will it be before changing the radio station or CD or having a conversation with a passenger will be outlawed. Nothing you can have in a car is more distracting than a small child, right? When will Big Brother ban them from cars?

There's too much government intrusion in every aspect of our lives--it's time to start cutting it back, not adding to it. We can apply peer pressure and let market forces work and thereby accomplish most of what government wants to impose.

Keep in mind that those who deeply want to have a beer while carrying or want to text and drive will do so, law or not.
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Well said sir.
 
jcwit your not following the discussion. This is not about drinking and shooting. Its about carrying into an American Legion post. Lets not blur the line. I went to a cousin Bday party not to long ago at a legion, I didn't drink. I could have but didn't. It was a choice and a sign on the door isn't going to stop a would be shooter from bringing a weapon in there either.
 
jcwit your not following the discussion. This is not about drinking and shooting. Its about carrying into an American Legion post. Lets not blur the line. I went to a cousin Bday party not to long ago at a legion, I didn't drink. I could have but didn't. It was a choice and a sign on the door isn't going to stop a would be shooter from bringing a weapon in there either.
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And as I stated in post # 19.

While I think its more than a little hypocritical, it is a private club and it is their rules, don't like it go elsewhere.

Same situation as if you do not like the rules at a private range.




Furthermore, none of us here have any idea why this rule was made, everything so far is nothing but pure speculation.
 
Really? We know why the rule WASN'T made... For at least the two reasons the American Legion Post lied about as being compelled under law or by their insurance. So, they are hiding, lying, covering up their decision.

So, the veteran members of the Post were mature enough for the service, to vote, work, have a family, own property, walk the streets, drive, drink, and carry a gun. Just can't do the last there.

That's anti-gun jc"wit". Same as any other place with such a sign. And please stop with the truly red herrings -- forget the alcohol and no-one is disputing the Post's right. Only pointing out its conflict with our own individual ones which seems to be confusing you a little and make you belligerant. Uh oh. You don't carry a gun, do you JC!?

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Furthermore, none of us here have any idea why this rule was made
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It really makes no different why they made the rule. It in infringes on rights and that particular post should be boycotted and patrons who care should write them a letter explaining theres plenty of places to spend their money other than there.
 
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