Ammo "hoarding is infectious"....

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So, I am visiting a LGS just window shopping, as I call it, when I see some 45(LC) Leverrevolution ammo on the shelf. Do I need it? No... In fact, I have no intention of hunting with my Marlin 45(LC) lever.

But I figure that it would be nice to have in case things dry-up completely ammo wise. Likely that I'll never shoot it. So I buy two boxes anyway.....

Then I realized I am part of the ammo shortage problem which is, in my opinion, of five fold origin:

#1. - People buying ammo that don't need. (certainly our right though)
#2. - Lack of manufacturing due to covid affecting workers doing their job.
#3.- Inability of manufacture to keep up with demand.
#4. - Anxiety of what the news gun un-friendly administration will do.
#5. - And when things are scarce already - a person doesn't want to be without.
 
Kleanbore said:
You had to buy some to realize that?
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Yes, I did. The other 8 boxes that remained in the store were gone when I went back less than a week later. Anyway, to assuage my guilt I will just have to use the stuff. Go easy on me brother- I am only human....

The only local ammo readily available is really odd stuff, .44-40, 9X13, and the like....

I have a friend in LA (Cali) who says that upon hearing of a store with ammo people will wait in line and hour more to purchase their one box limit -
 
I don't know about "Infectious". I have seen ammo on the shelf a couple of months ago and didn't buy it. I have enough for my own personal use for a long time. Plus enough lead and components to load many more rounds so I left everything I saw on the shelf for others. I learned a long time ago that a gun is useless without ammo and started stocking up way before it got crazy back in 2008. Everyone who has owned a gun for the last 10 years should have done the same thing.
 
My ammo buying habits haven't changed much. I buy a little here and there when I find a decent price. Took a while, but I learned from previous shortages and have built up a decent sized stash. Enough that I can keep shooting for some time without having to worry about running out.

Stopped into Big R in Billings, picked up a few boxes of .223 and 9mm a while back. Talking to the clerk I mentioned that I had been buying small amounts every week or two for years. He replied "it's hoarders like you that don't leave anything for the rest of us causing this shortage". I bought a total of 5 boxes of ammo, the couple next to me bought 10 boxes (the store limit at the time). Still shaking my head over that one, not sure how me buying ammo a few years back is causing the current shortage.

I only buy ammo I will actually use, don't have the cash to waste on anything else.
 
I stocked up after the last 'shortage', restocked as the years went by and bought more 6 mos ago when this 'shortage' started. Not apologizing for any of it.

I do expect the 'shortage' to continue for a while until the mfg. get caught up some and the policies of the gov't become clear.

Things can always go downhill from here.
 
I bought 1000rds of CCI standard velocity this morning at a LGS , $60 for the brick , I actually thought about going to get another one after I returned home. I see absolutely NO problem with buying as much as one pleases. Did I need the .22 rounds , the answer is no , but I wanted them , and I'm free to pirchase as many as I please.
 
Being a veteran of interruptions in the supply and demand cycle, I've taken the approach of acquiring components for reloading and purchasing commercial ammunition. Thus this latest crunch, I was prepared thus didn't join the balls on rush to acquire components and or commercial ammunition. I do not know how many times these cycles will be repeated or how often but they appear to be a reality.
 
Hangingrock said:
Being a veteran of interruptions in the supply and demand cycle, I've taken the approach of acquiring components for reloading and purchasing commercial ammunition. Thus this latest crunch, I was prepared thus didn't join the balls on rush to acquire components and or commercial ammunition. I do not know how many times these cycles will be repeated or how often but they appear to be a reality.
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I'm a fairly new gun owner ( maybe a few months over a year now) , so I wasn't stocked up on anything really , I also started reloading about 8 months ago. I was lucky before this China Flu nonsense to be able to get my hands on 7000 app , so I was sitting fairly decent in that position. I went to that store this morning to grab some powder , and I was actually quite shocked to see how boxes of .22 that they had in stock. Christmas came early in my opinion.
 
Most of us over 20 have watched the supply and demand cycle enough that we understand that oscillations are normal, the pendulum swings both ways and life will go on. Some will panic, however, and others will take advantage of those who panic. Some focus on blaming and shaming, while others quietly check online, pick up supplies here and there when they find them, and adapt. People will continue to try to fix fellow humans, and humans will continue to resist attempts to control them. Rinse, lather, repeat if you take orders from a shampoo bottle. ;)
 
Hokkmike said:
So, I am visiting a LGS just window shopping, as I call it, when I see some 45(LC) Leverrevolution ammo on the shelf. Do I need it? No... In fact, I have no intention of hunting with my Marlin 45(LC) lever.

But I figure that it would be nice to have in case things dry-up completely ammo wise. Likely that I'll never shoot it. So I buy two boxes anyway.....

Then I realized I am part of the ammo shortage problem which is, in my opinion, of five fold origin:

#1. - People buying ammo that don't need. (certainly our right though)
#2. - Lack of manufacturing due to covid affecting workers doing their job.
#3.- Inability of manufacture to keep up with demand.
#4. - Anxiety of what the news gun un-friendly administration will do.
#5. - And when things are scarce already - a person doesn't want to be without.
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6. Reduced and nonexistent imported ammunition and components due to COVID-19 and other factors.
 
Buying two boxes is NOT hoarding, I don't care what other definitions you might like to use. Practically all places that sell ammo now have limits. My local Scheel's limits customers to two 50-rd boxes of handgun and four 20-rd boxes of rifle ammo. I think #6 expressed above is now having a bigger impact on ammo supply than most people are willing to admit.

I've passed on buying available ammo which I considered outrageously priced, so we're not all infected by panic buying and hoarding.
 
Since the primer shortage of the early 90s I've seen to it I have sufficient stocks in ammo and reloading components. The primer shortage was self inflicted by reloader. I realize some can't do this for different reasons.
 
It isn’t just guns and ammo, the supply chain disruption is killing all sorts of business.

I went into one of the largest motorcycle and utv shops in the country yesterday because they were the ONLY shop I could find in so cal that still had three motorcycles in stock that will fit my daughter (Her gift for Christmas). The others I called from Huntington Beach to Reseda were all sold out of youth bikes, with zero chance of getting more in stock until well after the new year.

I drove an hour to buy the second-to-last YZ 65 they had, as one of the three sold during my drive over.

Their vehicle showroom floor is a couple of city blocks long, and is usually wall-to-wall with product from at least ten-twelve major manufacturers... and some other smaller ones (Gasgas, Kymco, Beta, etc). It’s almost empty now:

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The salesperson said they had a warehouse full of stuff that has been depleted since Covid started, they don’t expect anything in to restock for the foreseeable future.

Bass Pro, Turners Outdoorsman and other smaller gun shops are just as sparse, with the only exception being hunting or OU shotguns and bolt rifles. These can still be seen in the racks. The only ammo I saw at Bass Pro on Friday in any real quantity was steel duck loads. :(

It’ll return, but it’s gonna be awhile across the board.

Stay safe.
 
Lots of new gun owners every day. LOTS. There are more and more every day.
With the guns disappearing from shelves in many stores, some are completely out of firearms.
That means someone had to walk in and buy a gun, for the reason that it was the only gun left on the shelf, and no other reason. That is troubling to me, but a reality. Ammo follows the same suit, plus all the other older guns out there still need to be fed.

The folks out there taking advantage of reselling stuff theyve hoarded to turn around for more $ contributes to the problem. It happens everywhere including Armslist and Gunbroker. To help with that, many retailers online and the sort put limits on what any single one party can purchase. I strongly agree with their decision to do that during panic times.

Ive have thousands of rounds that ive bought years back that is currently selling for 3 fold right now, but i didnt buy the ammo with intent to resell it nor will I.

Also one more interesting thought, how many 30 round magazines were sold for 100$ or more back in 2012-13(ish?) that are now back to the 15$ price they should be? Money wasted folks.

Dont fall for stupidity, and prepare when times are good and prices are what they should be. Save yourself the grief :)

60 cents for remanufactured 9mm....is laughable to me. Weve seen this nonsense before, and like before, it will end... and a few years later, will happen again.
 
Palladan44 said:
60 cents for remanufactured 9mm....is laughable to me. Weve seen this nonsense before, and like before, it will end... and a few years later, will happen again.
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Yes and sadly it will be some of the same people crying the blues all over again because they can't find ammo and it never occurred to them to learn from the last shortage and stash ammo when the times are good and the prices are low. Some people just never learn.
 
Just remember when hording you cannot eat bullets. Stash food and bullets. Bullets to protect that food. That is if things get really hairy. But we dont do those scenarios here. So delete of you must.
 
I have a minimum amount I keep for each caliber gun I have. I have done this for decades. If I shoot down to my minimum ,I go shoot something else until I find some more to purchase. For a few decades I did cleaning, testing, and repairing guns for a local shop. During that period I picked up ammo at garage sales, gun shows, or where and when I found it cheap. I used it for test firing.
Now I hardly ever shoot. I am disabled in a wheel chair, no longer do gun work, and I moved from my 5.5 acre home near the river (nearest neighbor 1 mile) and there are no local ranges.
The last time I "stocked up" well over my minimum and needs, was at Cabela's. It was .22 LR Win white box. I still have at least one full brick (500 rounds) + some additional boxes from that 5 brick purchase. The cost was $7.77 per brick (on sale). They had a pallet full. I have other .22 ammo totaling about 3K rounds. About a month ago I stopped at Cabela's on my way to Mayo clinic they had exactly 5 boxes of 50 rounds ea. for sale. Browning .22 LR for $7.99 a box of 50.
The doctors indicated to me I will not need any more ammo. Not .22 , nor any other caliber either. I can now shoot up some of my minimum stash.
 
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