Ammo Price Madness

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BoltActionPrepper said:
http://www.luckygunner.com/handgun/9mm-ammo
$725.00 for a case of MagTech FMJ 9mm, and y'all think everything is going to be alright? LOL, y'alls optimism is admirable, but i am a realist. I fear what is coming. And it is coming soon.
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Don't buy it. Pure and simple. Doubt many will, and they will be forced to reduce prices. I am seeing 9MM at $15/box of 50 at my LGS now. That is even too expensive for me as I reload. They can keep it at that price.
 
Even in NON panic times,you can find people selling good for far above the average or normal price. I don't look a the highest price I can find to get an idea of what I should pay, and if you do, you're doing it wrong :neener: If you WANT to spend .75 a round on plinking ammo, be my guest....but don't for a second think you HAVE to.
 
I don't pay those prices. But there are plenty of people who will, and they're not helping the situation at all. As long as some scalper can find a lemming who will pay those prices things aren't going to get appreciably better. BTW, i don't wan't my above comment to be taken out of context. I do not wear a tin foil hat, but regardless, it is getting harder to excercise our 2nd Amendment rights by the hour. There is a war being waged against us, and alot of people are content to ignore it.
 
The only thing I'm "content to ignore" are prices that aren't within the realm of reason. Theres not a "war against us" or, rather, the ammo situation isn't a result of the war against us. With each passing day, both here on the forums, and out in the "real world" ammo is becoming more available. Whereas a month or two back, some ammo just could NOT be found, or when it was, it was priced outrageously. Now, more and more of the common calibers are finding their way to store shelves at prices closer to the pre-panic era. The fact that there are still a few people who haven't realized this and still pay the higher prices doesn't mean we're all doomed to pay them. The only thing I think thats "coming, and coming soon" is ever more ammo to store shelves....can me an optimist, but I see nothing to indicate that is anything but the truth....with each passin g day, theres more ammo on the market, and prices are starting a downward trend instead of climbing. Eb and flow.....Supply and Demand....
 
They're only trying to make a few bucks, or so I've been informed many times.

Many praises to Federal for stepping forward with available ammo at affordable pricing for our 4-H and Jr. Leagues.

This will be remembered by me if and when I ever have the need to buy more ammo.
 
BoltActionPrepper said:
I don't pay those prices. But there are plenty of people who will, and they're not helping the situation at all. As long as some scalper can find a lemming who will pay those prices things aren't going to get appreciably better. BTW, i don't wan't my above comment to be taken out of context. I do not wear a tin foil hat, but regardless, it is getting harder to excercise our 2nd Amendment rights by the hour. There is a war being waged against us, and alot of people are content to ignore it.
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Scalpers and lemmings?

Hardly. Just plain sour grapes for those who were late to the dance or can't afford market pricing.

Prices are down and stock is becoming more available. Let it go already for crying out loud.
 
Depends on where you shop. Check out your local gunshop. You'll probably find it cheaper (might have to check in there a couple of times, but ammo is coming to the shelves).
 
If you don't like the price, don't buy.

Could we all please resist the temptation to start more "ammo costs too much and I'm being oppressed by gougers" threads. You're free to do it, but before you do, ask yourself why we need another such thread. Enough's enough.
 
Hardly. Just plain sour grapes for those who were late to the dance or can't afford market pricing.

Prices are down and stock is becoming more available. Let it go already for crying out loud.
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You have lost your mind buddy. And just because someone only recently got started shooting doesn't mean that their rights don't matter. I know your type, "Thank gawd that i got mine before this bullcrap insued, those other idiots are out of luck" I guess you're not worried about principles and rights anymore because they held out long enough for you to "get your fix"... You're "prepared" with your 90,000 rounds and 1/2 a day's worth of food. "Let it go already" You may as well be talking about America herself! I'm glad that turning a blind eye wile everything goes to $%## works for you pal.
 
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feedthehogs said:
Scalpers and lemmings?

Hardly. Just plain sour grapes for those who were late to the dance or can't afford market pricing.
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I see this flippant attitude on a lot of these ammo/price threads, and its irritating. You seem to think that the current ammo shortage is "no big deal" whatsoever, and that a smart person should always maintain a 5 year supply of ammo in his basement. You know, a lot of people actually SHOOT their guns. If you shoot regularly, its almost impossible to keep yourself "stocked up" for the next run on ammo. If you're the type of guy who buys 1k .22LR and you're "good for a few years", awesome. But for guys that actually wanna get good at shooting, it takes a lotta practice and rounds.

Dealing with shortages and price spikes just plain sucks. And add to it that the current panic is totally irrational and encouraged by those that stand to profit from it, and you should think carefully about who's side you're on.

As for the OP, all I can say is "just say no" to the high prices. Every time someone pays a panic price, it only encourages the seller to keep gouging. When I'm out of ammo, I'll walk away from this hobby until cooler heads prevail.
 
It is really no harder to purchase ammunition, it is just more expensive in many locations now.
I miss 30-cents-a-gallon gasoline also.....and buying $10 surplus rifles mail-order from the back of a gun magazine without an FFL.
I re-read the 2nd Amendment. Forgive me, but I keep missing the part about the 'right to purchase ammunition for 1967 prices'.
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It is really no harder to purchase ammunition, it is just more expensive in many locations now.
I miss 30-cents-a-gallon gasoline also.....and buying $10 surplus rifles mail-order from the back of a gun magazine without an FFL.
I re-read the 2nd Amendment. Forgive me, but I keep missing the part about the 'right to purchase ammunition for 1967 prices'.
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Thats one way of looking at it. But i believe that ammuntition that was selling for $180.00 bucks a case less than a year ago now selling for $725.00 a case isn't the result of increased demand and gradual inflation. Again, if lying to yourself gives you a warm-n-fuzzy knock yourself out partner. When that same drastic amount of price increase applies to a loaf of bread we'll see what tune you sing.
 
Simple panic based demand and it can be had for much less, if you are willing to do the leg work. This too shall pass.
 
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I guess only time will tell if "this 2 shall pass" it's been 6 months and counting. I have been a gun owner for over 25 years and I have never seen anything like this before and that includes 8 years of Bill Clinton.
 
Another ammo thread about how ammo should cost less. Boo hoo.

Can't afford it? Don't worry about it. Do all these whiners also cry about not eating steak every meal or driving a luxury car?

It is what it is. It was expensive before; it's only getting more expensive.

There's a right to the pursuit of property, not the right to property at a price you can afford.
 
Will someone please take the ole' nag out back and practice your "Mozambique Drill" on her, please!
 
Prices and availability ARE moderating. This doesn't mean you can walk in Walmart and buy ammo as easily as you could in October of 2012 but I am seeing most types of ammo popping up in LGS every week. The prices are high but not in the "stupid" range I am seeing on internet sites. $17.95 for 50 rounds of 9mm is WAAAAY more than I am gonna pay but that's what I saw on Friday at a LGS I frequent. .22 LR is still the ammo that is least affordable but look at it this way. If you follow Gunbroker you would know that a brick of .22 was going for $90+ two months ago. These are "Scalpers" buying at Walmart for $20 and flipping it for whatever the market will bear. If you look today at "buy it now" auctions you can see prices at $50 per brick. That is still so far out of line as to be stupid but it is about half what it was 2 months ago.
Walmart's price is still what it was pre-panic. That doesn't mean you can find it but it does mean that manufacturers have not raised their prices considerably. There is still a shortage because supply cannot meet demand. Whether that demand is because of hoarders or scalpers or just everyday Joes buying a couple of extra boxes is really not the point. Anytime "demand exceeds" conditions exist for any reason on any product then we have a shortage and prices will be higher. Gas, cars, beef, lettuce or ammo. We are in that situation with ammo today and have been for 6 months now. I guessed back in January that it would moderate by June but I really expected the craziness to be completely over by now.
I am one of the fortunate ones who had enough of my two main calibers, .22LR and 9mm, on hand that I have not had to sweat. I cannot shoot my 9mm or .380 carry ammo as much as I would like however because I can't replace them and don't carry a great deal at any one time. I bought a lot of .22 online back in December right when the craziness got started and was fortunate enough to have the order filled completely. I also bought a 9mm from a family member back in January and he had 20 or so boxes of 9mm ammo that he was gonna give me but I gave him $10 a box for it. I promise that as soon as ammo gets affordable I will buy a 2 year supply of .22 LR and will replenish my 9mm. All the other calibers will just have to sit in the safe like they have been doing for the past 6 months.
 
But i believe that ammuntition that was selling for $180.00 bucks a case less than a year ago now selling for $725.00 a case isn't the result of increased demand and gradual inflation
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Seriously....What people may be ASKING for ammo is not necessarily what they are actually getting for it.

And BTW; Calm down please. Hysteria will get you nowhere.
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I wish these folks who constantly whine about prices would go into the ammo/gun retail, business since they seem to think there is SOOOO much profit to be made. Most of the whining seems to come from folks who are unprepared, underfunded or something similar.

The seller's ASKING price is not always what the SELLING price - the buyer sets the retail price. As long as someone WILLINGLY pays the current asking price, the seller has priced his goods properly. When no one is buying, then the seller does something common to all retailers - he lowers his price - in most retail places it is called a "sale".......

This concept is really not hard to understand
 
I think we need more topics on dealers or individuals selling overpriced ammunition. :D
 
Enough. The ammo shortage and higher prices are nothing new. We do not need a new thread everytime a new sales flyer comes out. The sky is falling in some places, in others things are not so bad. There is no universal situation or answer.
 
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