An Honest Look at the FNH FS2000 Carbine - The Underappreciated Space Gun (PICS)

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this model is hella nice, I shot one awhile back and was thoroughly impressed! congrats on the FN and your acceptance into medical school!
 
The FS2000 is probably a nice rifle, but I still can't get over the fact that it is uber-bulky...even by bullpup standards. The buttpad and "waistline" on my M17 is literally half that of the FS2000. I plan to give the nod to the svelte PS90 (SBR'd) in the future, as good as it may be the FS2k just doesn't float my boat.

:)
 
It is bulky, thats for sure. It sits nicely in the hand, but its still a thick gun.

Have you handled the PS90 before? Its slimmer than the FS2000, but its still pretty chunky as well
 
Yeah, a friend of mine had a PS90, and I liked it pretty well. Only changes that I would like to make would be a caliber conversion to something like a .30Carbine (will probably never happen), and SBR it to the original length (something like 10.5in. IIRC). It just feels right to me, and if it is nearly as bulky as the FS2000 it doesn't feel that way to me. That said the MSAR (AUG clone) is fairly chunky as well, but at least it affords something different that what I already have (5.56 and .300WM right now, and a .308Win. on order in addition to the 7.62x39mm MSAR).

:)
 
The PS90 is an awesome weapon, and Im sure the 5.7mm thing has been beaten to death around here, but its just not an effective man stopper, at least not with the civilian-available ammo and semiautomatic fire only.

A SBR version would be awesome, but the main draw for the PS90 is the size and capacity, everything else about it, in my opinion, is lacking.
 
I agree completely...that is why i'd like to see a less anemic round chambered for it...something like a .30Carbine would be fantastic. That is also why it is at he bottom of the bullpup short-list.

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Can you imagine it chambered in something like 10mm? I'd guess it'd hold somewhere in the range of 35 rounds or so

whooooooooooo boy
 
Not a real big fan of the 10mm (or .40S&W for that matter), but it would be a marked improvement over the 5.7mmFNH for sure...but what wouldn't? I don't particularly care for a proprietary round to begin with, and would even prefer a .22WMR to the 5.7mm. Something like a 10mm-357 (a long .357Sig) would be great too, but I would rather have the capacity of the .30Carbine (not much less than the 5.7mm).

:)
 
Its a shame that the .30 carbine has been neglected the way it has

I think its got more potential than people give it credit for.

Im no ballistics expert, but I think .30 carbine would make a great round for SMG style PDW weapons....something a little more powerful than your standard 9mm Mp5 but not as blasty as the .223 weapons

Imagine a bullpup weapon like the AUG or F2000 with a 12 in barrel and 35-40 rds of .30 carbine on tap
 
Actually my PS90 hasn't been too anemic. Had a friend pull some bullets out of the ss195 round and reload them " a bit hotter". With a little help the ps90 gets 12-14" pen in geliten easy. Many are having good luck with dumping the stock powder and reloading for defense.

Even with it's odd trigger, getting a semi ps90 to rock and roll is easy. I can hit a rate of fire far beyond anything practical any time I want to. The little rifle is easy to aim during rapid fire.

Still it's a defensive CQB weapon, expevting anything more is unrealistic.
 
lloydkristmas said:
Its a shame that the .30 carbine has been neglected the way it has

I think its got more potential than people give it credit for.

Im no ballistics expert, but I think .30 carbine would make a great round for SMG style PDW weapons....something a little more powerful than your standard 9mm Mp5 but not as blasty as the .223 weapons

Imagine a bullpup weapon like the AUG or F2000 with a 12 in barrel and 35-40 rds of .30 carbine on tap
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Interesting.
When WW2 started, the army needed Thompsons, but they were awfully expensive, and the gun was altered in an attempt to expedite production and lessen expenses, but even that didn't work so the M3 Greasegun was developed.
If the Thompson had stayed in production, a stainless steel .30 Carbine version would have been made.
Of course production of this never happened but a select fire version of the M1 Carbine, the M-2 was developed and while not truly a SMG ... it is about as close as it gets.
 
Zerodefect said:
Actually my PS90 hasn't been too anemic.
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Not trying to start a pissin' match. I'll just leave it as a little less than I would prefer...nuff said.

General Geoff said:
Ask and ye shall receive.
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Interesting, didn't realize that existed...now they just need to put it to good use in a common PDW or SMG platform.

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The only problem I can hold agsinst the gun is that clearing an odd double feed is really tough without a bolt hold open.

Flip up the cover
pull charging handle to the rear and hold it there (hold stock against chest or waist)
strip mag
release charging handle and rack till the other comes out.
reload
cover down
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I hadn't even thought about how you would clear a double feed, or other cycling mishaps that are sure to occur, and those are very good points. Plus my AR's, FAL, and pistols have spoiled me to the point that I feel every firearm needs a bolt hold open. I didn't know the 2000 didn't have one
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Ok maybe I'm missing something here. I have a FS2000 and it has a bolt hold open feature. It is very similar to the way it is done on an HK. Pull the charging handle to the rear and push it up into the detent slot. The bolt is held back until you release the charging handle. Is this something that has changed on different versions or something??
 
I believe that he is referring to an automatic last round bold hold open (LRBHO), rather than a manually operated one. A feature not present on the FS2k, at least that I am aware of.

:)
 
One thing that I have yet to hear mention, that is one of my personal favorite features of the FS2000, is the safety. perfect location, easy to purposefully manipulate but still positive in execution. While it is a mechanical device and should be trusted as such, I have a high degree of confidence in it.
 
I believe that he is referring to an automatic last round bold hold open (LRBHO), rather than a manually operated one. A feature not present on the FS2k, at least that I am aware of
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But they are both talking about clearing jams and double feeds. Situations where a last round hold open doesn't matter. If clearing a jam you can absolutely lock open the bolt on a FS2000
 
Pack it in R.I.G. now....

Go ahead and shoot it for now. Then prior to school starting wipe it down liberally in RIG and place it in storage. Then comes your 1st year of med school. Aside from the curricular demands, you'll also have to prep for all the NBME shelf exams. You'll have no time for a life. During your second year, there's further curricular demands and shelf exams. Oh yeah, that's when you'll start to prep for Step 1 of your Boards. Can't slack there because your score dictates your future career options. Then you have your clinicals, more shelf exams, Step 2CK and Step 2CS of the Boards, and you'll also have the headache of entering the Match and all the applications, personal statements, and interviews. Then you'll have to start your residency. Still no time to go shooting when you're working 75 hours a week and studying for Step 3 of the boards and in-house service exams with what little time you have. You'll still be able to dream about it once in a while...maybe even take a few minutes to look at those pictures. Then, after your second year, if you're not still working 75 hours a week, then that extra time will be spent moonlighting. Finally, after you finish residency....now you can take it out of storage. Wipe of the RIG. Now, put it up for sale on Gunsamerica.com because with what you'll be making under Obamacare you won't be able to pay back that $200,000 in school loans.

Moral of the story? Medicine isn't worth going into, especially if you're and avid shooter. If only I could go back and get into computer programming....
 
Great review, thanks for posting it. The price really seems to deter me from many gun purchases these days but I hope to find an FS2000 for $1500 some day. Great find.
 
Yeah, to clear up any question, the FS2000 does NOT have a "last round bolt holdopen" like on the AR, SIG556, etc.

It DOES however have the ability to lock the bolt rearward, much like an HK G3

I dont ever lock the bolt back though, because the gun can jam if you insert a magazine with the bolt open and then ride the bolt forward to chamber a round. The only real option is to 'smack' the handle down HK style, and (according to the head FN customer service guy) this is not a good idea.

Not to say its gonna snap off the first time you do it, but he did say that they usually get about 1-2 people per year who have broken a charging handle.

Such low numbers make me think its an abuse issue rather than a manufacturing defect
 
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